Glenn Miller's trumpets

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  1. Double_G

    Double_G Pianissimo User

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    I just want to know who they were before the war. And if anybody had the names of the guys that are in it now. I think the early Glenn Miller Orchestra is the greatest big band ever formed. I got a recording of In The Mood by Glenn Miller before the war. That first trumpet player in that solo is terrific. He sounds great even if the track is scratchy. I was amazed at the quality of performance of those guy.
     
  2. Solar Bell

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    Glenn used a lot a players, most you never heard of.
    Bunny Berigan was in his first band.
    Zeke Zarchy, his long time lead player.
    In 1938 his section was
    Bob Price
    Bob Barker
    Johnny Austin

    He also used
    Les Biegel
    Johnny Best
    Ray Anthony-4th trumpet, only stayed 6 months
    Bobby Hacket-on guitar when hired
    Bernie Privin-in the Army band
    Bobby Nichols- Army band
    Clyde Hurley--the famous In The Mood solo
    Billy May

    By the way, it is usually the 2nd book player that takes the solos. Not always, but usually.

    -cw-
     
  3. Double_G

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    I know secodn book is the solo book. I was the soloist for my high school this year in our stage band.

    Their director really told them that?
     
  4. Solar Bell

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    A more complete list:

    Source "The Jazz Discogrphy" by Tom Lord, 2005.


    Players listed in no particular order but the timeline is as listed.

    1935 (probably a studio pickup group): Bunny Berigan and Charlie Spivak
    1937: Charlie Spivak, Mannie Klein and Sterling Bose
    : Charlie Spivak, Ralph Capelli and Chuck Peterson
    : Bob Price, Pee Wee Erwin and Ardell Garrett
    1938:*Bob Price, Johnny Austin, Gasparre Rebito
    : Bob Price, Johnny Austin, Louis Mucci
    : Bob Price, Johnny Austin, Claude Bowen
    : Bob Price, Johnny Austin, Leigh Knowles
    1939:*Bob Price, Bob Price, Leigh Knowles
    :*Bob Price, Leigh Knowles, Dale "Mickey" McMickle
    :*Leigh Knowles, Clyde Hurley, Dale "Mickey" McMickle
    :*Leigh Knowles, Clyde Hurley, Dale "Mickey" McMickle, John Best
    1940:*Leigh Knowles, Clyde Hurley, Zeke Zarchy, John Best
    :*Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Clyde Hurley, Zeke Zarchy, John Best
    :*Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Charles Frankhauser, Zeke Zarchy, John Best
    : Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Charles Frankhauser, Phil Rommel, John Best
    : Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Charles Frankhauser, Max Kaminsky, John Best
    : Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Charles Frankhauser, Ray Anthony, John Best
    :*Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Ray Anthony, John Best, Billy May
    1941: Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Ray Anthony, Harry Geller, Billy May
    : Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Ray Anthony, Leonard Mack, Billy May
    :*Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Ray Anthony, John Best, Billy May
    :*Dale "Mickey" McMickle, Alec Fila, John Best, Billy May, Bobby Hackett
    :*Dale "Mickey" McMickle, John Best, Billy May, Bobby Hackett
    : Dale "Mickey" McMickle, John Best, Billy May, Zeke Zarchy
    : Dale "Mickey" McMickle, John Best, Billy May, Zeke Zarchy, Bobby Hackett
    1942: Dale "Mickey" McMickle, John Best, Billy May, Bill Graham, Bobby Hackett
    :*Dale "Mickey" McMickle, John Best, Billy May, Steve Lipkins, Bobby Hackett
    : Dale "Mickey" McMickle, John Best, Billy May, Steve Lipkins, Bobby Hackett, Harry James
    1943AAF: Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Jack Reid
    :*Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Jack Reid, John Carisi, Jack Steele
    :*Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Jack Reid, John Carisi, Jack Steele, Bobby Nichols
    : Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Jack Reid, Bernie Privin, John Steele, Bobby Nichols
    : Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Bernie Privin, Jack Steele, Bobby Nichols
    : Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Jack Steele, Bobby Nichols
    :*Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Bernie Previn, Bobby Nichols
    : Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Bernie Previn, Bobby Nichols
    :*Whitey Thomas, Steve Steck, Bernie Previn, Bobby Nichols, Jack Steele
    :*Whitey Thomas, Bernie Previn, Bobby Nichols, Jack Steele
    1944AAF-1945:*Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Bernie Previn, Bobby Nichols, Jack Steele

    * entries denote configurations used on more than a few dates

    Hope this helps. Thanks.

    Dylan,
    I see Bob Peck was with GM in 1937 before they did any important recording. Cool to have his horn.

    -cw-
     
  5. Solar Bell

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    stcman wrote:

    Double_G wrote:

    I believe it. It is also something Glenn Miller would have said. He was very strict about the sound of his band. Very little chance to swing and improvise. He was proud and protective of his commercial sound and appeal.

    -cw-
     
  6. JonathanPhillips

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    Who played the screaming lead on the famous recording of In the Mood?
     
  7. Buck with a Bach

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    Check post #2:oops:
     
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    Thanks, Buck. My eyesight was very blurry earlier and I didn't see that. Yep, a big oops!!:shock:
     
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    Glen Miller was a great orchestra leader, and his music is still great, this is what I look for in Trumpet Master, all the musicians should be recognized for their talent so we can learn who they were and try to learn to be as good or better than they were. It still amazes me on how good these people were during this time period.
     
  10. Buck with a Bach

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    Just imagine how good they'd have sounded if they were recorded on todays improved systems:shock::oops:
     

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