Gold Plating

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  1. knf jazz cat

    knf jazz cat New Friend

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    I recently heard that gold plating is detrimental to a horn's sound. Is this true? I do know that it can make a horn more mellow because it's heavier than other finishes.
     
  2. Happy Canuck

    Happy Canuck Piano User

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    I would certainly question your source of that comment.

    Consider that the Canadian Brass play gold plated horns, the finish isn't detrimental to their sound??

    Plus read this paper by Renold Schilke http://www.dallasmusic.org/schilke/Brass Clinic.html#Finishes

    Change the sound, maybe. Detrimental, no!
     
  3. eclipse trumpets

    eclipse trumpets Piano User

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    Gold plating is NOT detrimental in any way physicaly to the horn, and in my own opinion it is the finish that least affects the sound of a horn that you may have played in its raw state.

    It is also a more effective barrier against the acids in your sweat than many other finishes.

    But of course the down side is that it is a lot more costly.

    Regards

    Leigh
     
  4. bugler16

    bugler16 Pianissimo User

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    I have most of my horns goldplated due to acidic hands. Yes it does stand up much better than silver. I played my horns (silverplated, and replated several times) before I was told to try goldplate. The difference in look and wear amazing the difference in playing characteristics and tonal quality negligble (sp). My fiancee says that they sound a little more mellow but I honestly can't tell a difference I still sound like me.
     
  5. jamesfrmphilly

    jamesfrmphilly Piano User

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    the north philly ghetto
    will it last?
    take a beating?
    i had a gold plated mouthpiece once and the gold wore off the shank in a few months.
     
  6. Tootsall

    Tootsall Fortissimo User

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    Yee HAW!
    Gold is quite soft. "Jamming" a mouthpiece shank into a receiver is guaranteed to "grind" the gold plating off. Handling a horn gently, not letting mutes rattle around in the case, etc. and gold plating should last as well as any other finish....longer if you have acidic perspiration or live in a corrosive environment (salt-water coastline, high humidity, etc.).

    Since fingerprints, etc. "wipe off" of gold much more easily than they do off of silver or lacquer, there should be a greatly reduced amount of "elbow grease" needed to clean it too!

    I'm considering getting my Getzen cornet gold plated as my next major "purchase".
     
  7. BachMan

    BachMan Pianissimo User

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    It is my understanding that to gold plate a trumpet you first have to have it silver plated so the gold will "stick"

    So maybe adding another layer of plating to the brass might make it play a bit different. If anything I would think darker?

    Not sure about laquer? I know silver and gold hold up alot better than laquer though.
     
  8. knf jazz cat

    knf jazz cat New Friend

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    Okay, you confirmed what I already thought. Now I have another question. My horn's lacquer is worn and I want to get it stripped off and have the horn refinished. I have pretty acidic hands and want a finish that better protects and looks damn good at the same time ie: gold-plated (possibly satin gold). I want to know of a good place to have it done, and if refinishing will affect the instrument in any way. Thanks
     
  9. Friendly Horn Player

    Friendly Horn Player New Friend

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    Eclipse... Eclipse... Eclipse... Eclipse... unless you don't want to send to Europe, except of course if you already live in Europe!

    Eclipse would at least be a good starting point.

    I have never actually played Eclipse, but you said you wanted the finish to look good. I know for a fact that the finish job looks exceptional, go to their site and see for yourself: www.eclipsetrumpets.com

    I hope this helps!
     
  10. knf jazz cat

    knf jazz cat New Friend

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    Well, I don't want to be shipping my horn to Europe, too costly and too much time spent, so despite Eclipse's great work, that's out.
     

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