Grime Gutter Problem.

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Big Daddy, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. Big Daddy

    Big Daddy Mezzo Piano User

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    When I purchased my new Silver Bach it came with a Grime Gutter attached to bottom of my valve casing and when I removed it, I noticed black guck on the valves from the Grome Gutter. :thumbdown:

    It looks like some of the silicon came off the grime gutter and stuck on the valve casing and bottom caps. I have been trying to remove it and it won't come off. :shhh:

    I took it to a place and the tried to brush it off and could get it all off. I only use soap and warm water to clean my trumpet. Any suggestions on how I can get this guck off?

    Thanks
    -Rob
     
  2. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

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    You could try rubbing alcohol on a q-tip, or valve oil.
     
  3. Big Daddy

    Big Daddy Mezzo Piano User

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    Thanks Brekelfuw! I will try it out.

    -Rob
     
  4. TrumpetMonk

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    I had the same problem. Cleaned mine again today actually. Go to your local music store and ask for "flitz" brass polish. It does a dandy job and it'll get it right off with some elbow grease.
     
  5. Big Daddy

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    Thanks, Trumpet Monk! Is that the same as the cloth? Or do I need the brass polish? I ask because a store I called after your post just has the flitz cloth.
     
  6. Big Daddy

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    I went to a store "Baxter Northup Music" that was open and all they had was a "Blitz" cloth for $5.95. It got is all off. TrumpetMonk, you were right about the elbow grease and now my thumb is throbbing. :shhh:

    While I was there I purchased, The Authentic Edition Arban's Complete Conservatory Method For Trumpet. $29.95. :thumbsup:

    A friend told me about it last year and I finally got it.

    Thanks again!
    -Rob
     
  7. dr-pepp

    dr-pepp Pianissimo User

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    As far as I'm concerned, the Grime Gutter is one of the worst inventions ever devised. They create far more problems (damage to the silver plating) than they cure (grime coming out of the bottom caps? gimme a break, if there is grime or gunk coming out of the bottom caps, then the horn owner is a slob).
     
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  8. brian moon

    brian moon Forte User

    They also give the horn a dull sound and response.
     
  9. oldlou

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    gimme a break, if there is grime or gunk coming out of the bottom caps, then the horn owner is a slob).[/QUOTE]

    The reason for the holes in the bottom valve caps is to drain the naturally formed "gunk" from the valves. This is much more prevalant in the early years of a horns life, because of the 'fines' generated by the in use lapping in of the mating surfaces in the valve engine. Add to this the saliva and valve oil excess applied to the pistons and you have 'gunk'. The very finest of trumpeters have problems with this 'gunk' getting on their clothing and staining it. Condensation is another additive to the 'gunk'. All of the above occures in every trumpet if it gets played, not just to "slobs'.


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  10. patkins

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    I agree with dr-pepp, one useless contraption.
     

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