Half-valve glissandos - posssible on all horns?

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  1. bumblebee

    bumblebee Fortissimo User

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    I've been playing some songs on my Recording which require some smoother glissandos. I've usually done this by slurring through the notes with the valves half-depressed and on my Strad and Destino that was fine, but on my Recording it sounds very strangled; the resistance is much greater and the sound is getting cut off. Is this usual do you know, and is there a way around this?

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  2. nieuwguyski

    nieuwguyski Forte User

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    Experiment with different combinations of valves. Try only valve halfway down, and try each valve. Do a search on the "Sleigh Ride" whinny effect -- lots of suggestions have been posted about how to play that, and some of those suggestions might work for your glisses.
     
  3. tpsiebs

    tpsiebs Piano User

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    It is interesting to watch Miles (on YouTube) perform some of his half valve techniques. Sometimes only one valve (often the first or third) - I can approximate the effect on my '46 Committee, using the same technique. I agree that my Mendez and Super definitely require a different technique than my Strad. Rex Stewart from Duke's band was known for this too. I haven't looked on YouTube but, it might be worth a search. Don't assume all horns will use the same methodology.
     
  4. tedh1951

    tedh1951 Utimate User

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    My five trumpets all have a different degree of valve depression required to achieve smooth glisses - I'm able to use 2nd valve if I listen, but sometimes 3rd is best if the expression is exposed.
     
  5. Dupac

    Dupac Fortissimo User

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    Using 3rd valve is common, but curiouly it works better for me with 1+2…
     
  6. Chuck Cox

    Chuck Cox Forte User

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    I do all 3 valves starting 3/4 ths depressed and opening up to the note I'm aiming for.
     
  7. bumblebee

    bumblebee Fortissimo User

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    Exactly what I do, except I'm having to work out a different method on the Recording. I can bend notes very easily on the Recording so have been pushing the valves down further in a kind of wave motion bending the notes up then resetting multiple times as I slide through the gliss' range. Getting there!

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