Head Pain/Dizziness

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by dtcwatkins18, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Peter McNeill

    Peter McNeill Utimate User

    Jan 30, 2009
    Melbourne Australia
    Welcome to TM,

    Go see a Doctor, and all good advice given. Let's hope you get it resolved without the ultimate "permanent relief". Keep us in the loop on how you go; If me, I would not play until I had it sorted, or at least without recognising the triggers. Your body is giving you the warning signs, so take it easy and respond to the warnings.

    Good luck
  2. Buck with a Bach

    Buck with a Bach Fortissimo User

    Dec 29, 2009
    Canton, Ohio
    Go see the doc, and I don't mean Severensen. Playing trumpet shouldn't hurt, unless you nrun into your squad leader's back( Don't ask how I know). The above posts are correct about your body giving you some heads up here:oops:
  3. Culbe

    Culbe Forte User

    Jul 25, 2014
    I get dizzy after playing flute or t-bone for awhile. In my case it is probably because of the air involved, as both these instuments use more air than the trumpet. I'm not sure is this is even close to what you are experiencing, but I hope this helps.
  4. gmonady

    gmonady Utimate User

    Jan 28, 2011
    Dayton, Ohio
    There are two phases to post concussion headache. Most only go through the first phase. In this phase beta blockers have been found to be effective (as have ACE-Inhibitors). But the second phase is only experienced by the minority at about 15%. For those individuals Melatonin (up to 3 mg) had been found in cohort studies to be very effective. The starting dose is as low as 0.3 mg, and is increased periodically. I have had great success in my patients with the delayed post concussion headaches, long after they have exhausted attempts with neurologists (that tend to use topamax which is not near as effective and had many side effects).

    Of course TrumpetMD would not be aware of this because he only works the ER and doesn't have the chance to follow these patients out. Come to think of it after my 3 visits to the ER for my kidney stone problems, it was the ER docs that gave me the headaches.:shhh:
  5. TrumpetMD

    TrumpetMD Fortissimo User

    Oct 22, 2008
    Honey! Gary's picking on me again! ;-)

    BTW, I believe today is Gary's (gmonady) birthday.

    Happy birthday, buddy!

  6. gmonady

    gmonady Utimate User

    Jan 28, 2011
    Dayton, Ohio
    And at my age I have become so demented, I don't remember the barbs you throw at me. Who the heck is TrumpetMD any way.

    Well anyway, a positive thing I can say about having dementia, is I am always making new friends.
  7. Cornyandy

    Cornyandy Fortissimo User

    Jan 9, 2010
    East Yorkshire
    For Gman and TMD read Hawkeye and Frank. Surgical gloves off boys, scalpels at dawn
  8. eviln3d

    eviln3d Pianissimo User

    Jun 5, 2013
    I remember in my younger days when a bunch of us in the jazz band would be blowing so hard we would see stars floating afterwards... Didn't know it at the time but the stars were the result of us raising the blood pressure in our heads too much by the amount of pressure we were building up blowing high notes.

    Point is I'm betting that you are increasing the blood pressure in your brain by playing. Maybe not enough to cause anything to start bleeding so that it would show up on a scan... but I would really think about seeing a specialist before I tried to play anymore at all.
  9. gmonady

    gmonady Utimate User

    Jan 28, 2011
    Dayton, Ohio
    Not so... Check out my thread "Thoughts from a Hospital Bed". I actually studied the effect of range on blood pressure and oxygenation of blood. It was rather eye opening. As I climbed higher in range (Equipment used - Allora Pocket Trumpet and Yamaha Silent Mute), my blood pressure stayed rock solid. What changed was the Pulse Ox readings. As I went up to the C above staff, the Pulse Ox stayed in the mid 90's (normal value). As I want above the C, the pulse ox fell to the low 90's. Then when I approached from F to Double High C, the Pulse Ox fell to the high 80's (we as physicians start giving nasal canula oxygen in this Pulse Ox range). When hitting double high C, the Pulse Ox plummets to the low 70's which is only a few points off from falling off the hemoglobin binding curve. This is why you see the dots, because of decreased oxygen to the brain by PULMONARY hypertension, not systemic hypertension. Remember, my systemic blood pressure was rock steady.

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