Help a new trumpet player find C

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  1. theengel

    theengel New Friend

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    My wife picked up a used trumpet at Goodwill last month, and I thought I'd give it a go. Never really played an instrument ('cept banjo by ear). And I don't know anything about musical theory.

    I was told that a C on a piano would be the right starting place for me to toot my first note. Only I simply could not produce that note with all the buttons open. I could only produce something 1 or 2 notes down.

    Well, I started just pretending that was C, and learned the C scale (except it was a note or two off). All the little songs I play reading music that way sounds right...but it's still not a C I'm starting with.

    I don't know a thing about music and am trying to pick all this up...but what am I missing?

    Thanks from a rookie.
     
  2. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

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    The C on your trumpet will be a B flat on the piano.
     
  3. Publius_

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    try going lower on the piano it is actually one of the black keys that is C because Piano is in the key of C and standard trumpets are Bb. you could go online also and look around they could give you the tone and some tuners even have it.
     
  4. theengel

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    Thanks for the replies...

    So to learn the C scale on my trumpet, I start with the note I circled in this pic and not the one I X'ed?

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    Sorry that I don't quite understand the answers. :>
     
  5. Solar Bell

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    Yes.

    The trumpet is pitched in B flat.

    The piano is in the key of C.

    To play a "C" scale on a trumpet, you are actually playing what would be a "Concert B flat" scale on the piano.

    The notes for a "C" scale on a trumpet are
    C
    D
    E
    F
    G
    A
    B
    C

    The notes on the piano are

    Bflat
    C
    D
    EFlat
    F
    G
    A
    Bflat

    Hope that helps.
     
  6. veery715

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    Trumpet C scale:
    Begin on your C (Bb on piano) Open (no valves down) then, going up:
    D (1 & 3)
    E (1 & 2)
    F (1)
    G open
    A (1 & 2)
    B (2)
    C open

    This will sound the same as the Bb scale Solar Bell posted.

    Then, to match the piano's C scale, you play the trumpet D scale, going up:

    D (1 & 3)
    E (1 & 2)
    F# (2)
    G open
    A (1 & 2)
    B (2)
    C# (1 & 2)
    D (1)

    Don't fret (guitar pun) that the upper D is fingered differently than the lower one. It's a trumpet idiosyncrasy that you'll get used to.

    veery
     
  7. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    Even more important than pushing the right button down is getting your breathing together. The trumpet is a WIND instrument. You need to start always with a big breath. I visualise the breathing cycle as a circle. The left side going up is inhale and the right side going down is exhale. At the top and bottom a circle stays smooth, and your breathing should also smoothly transition from in- to exhale. Always take a BIG breath, lots of air reduces the physical strength that you need to make sound. It also helps you get a better sound.

    Good luck!
     
  8. theengel

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    Thanks for all the info.

    Yeah, at first the breathing was a problem. I kept almost passing out. But I can almost play Floral Dance now without getting dizzy. :>
     
  9. operagost

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    If you decide to stick with it, I recommend getting the Arban's Method for Cornet and Trumpet; even better, find an instructor as well.

    So what kind of trumpet did you get?
     
  10. veery715

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