Holding notes, and being relaxed.

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  1. BinaryHulledIon

    BinaryHulledIon Piano User

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    Sadly, no. My sister's husband and his best friend make a hobby of collecting hobbies. So, they set out to enter some sort of competition, and their mead took third. It's sweet, but not too sweet, very smooth and pleasant, and hits like a prize fighter. He gave me a bottle of it over Christmas after I made several jokes about liberating some Belgians from his fridge.
     
  2. Ed Lee

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    Taste varys with the bedding and fruit additives. Mine was bedded in oatmeal and I added orange peelings. Still, my Granddad's winter peach brandy would knock your socks off if you put away a second sniffter of it. During prohibition Granddad earned enough to buy the farm he had been leasing to raise the corn. The T-boys never did find his stills as were cut up and sold for scrap during WWII. Well, my drinking days are history now ... my meds don't allow such now.
     
  3. gmonady

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    I personally, would rather watch paint peal.
     
  4. gmonady

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    I would recommend against doing this as detailed above. Why? Allen Vizzutti cautions against holding long tones for prolonged periods of time as he feels this significantly fatigues lips and diminishes endurance. He told his audience this during a master trumpet class I attended. He does not have problems with long tones as long as they are not prolonged. He suggests rather starting on a note and moving or slurring to another after holding on a tone for several comfortable beats.

    So how long is too long? I imagine this depends on the player. I find I can work on maintaining tone and doing so reproducibly, in a realistic time span. If you are working on Killer Joe time... that would be 8 beats for the longest hold in that tune. I myself during warm ups, hold long tones out for 8 beats slur to another note for 8 beats for a total of 6 intervals. I have found that this gives my very fine control for the most demanding hold I would use with practical playing.

    I do use circular breathing which is a challenge, but can hold a steady tone for several cycles over a moderate tempo 12 bar blues progression.

    As a medical specialist, I would NEVER recommend holding a note out to the point where you begin shaking. There are people out there that have a very sensitive B-J reflex and in so doing, my trigger a syncopal episode. This could lead to head injury, fracture or induced cardiac arrhythmia.
     
  5. BinaryHulledIon

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    Which would be much, much more interesting than watching paint peel :-P
     
  6. Ed Lee

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    Very poor (untrained) painter if his/her paint ever peels. Musical instruments are the wrong tools / remedy to remove paint. Very old thick layered oil based paint cracks and curls.
     
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  7. Richard Oliver

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    Or paint dry.

    And you are can't possibly mean that, eh G? You were being witty or ironic?
     
  8. Ed Lee

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    Bigdub, you're slipping up on your job ... church bells peal, but about everything other than a bell PEELS.

    Well, in the circumstance, if one were a lyricist and was enthralled with a painting, it may be written as: "The painting 'peals to my heart." Such contractions are sometimes overdone to synchronize with the music. Nuts don't crack either ... an external force cracks them.
     
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  9. gmonady

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    Unless someone paint the church bells with cheep paint.
     
  10. gmonady

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    PS: I know its cheap but I couldn't resist. I'm learning... it's a slow process, but I'm learning... What else can I do when BigDub is OBVIOUSLY off on vacation... or he's just OFF. Not sure which.
     

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