I think that we are off track! Consider that for some, even thousands of hours is not the "right solution". Recreational drugs NEVER are. Let's keep this thread going in a useful direction. Although listening to the sax that closely for that many hours would need some external pain relief................... If we listen to the jazz greats, we hear immediately the vast amount of time invested - all of those scales alone take a lifetime (and a half). There is no being world class without continued hard work.