How Much? and How Often?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by stumac, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. Dale Proctor

    Dale Proctor Utimate User

    Jul 20, 2006
    Heart of Dixie
    I use Blue Juice. On the horns I play regularly, I put a few drops on each valve every couple days. For those that sit in their cases for weeks, quietly awaiting the thrill of being used, I oil before playing them, as Blue Juice evaporates fairly quickly. I've heard the tale of spitting on the valves to lube them in the days before valve oil. That would probably explain the worn-out valves on many vintage horns that were played very much.
  2. SteveRicks

    SteveRicks Fortissimo User

    Aug 15, 2009
    blue Juice lasts a long time and doesn't stain. I spilled about 10 drops on a colored shirt last week and it washed out without a problem. If you want something that REALLY LASTS, try BiNaK. It is a synthetic that lasts 10 times longer than anything I have ever seen. Only takes a drop or two. Can last days to weeks. A bottle came with my Kanstul1502. Have been using it exclusively on the horn. Bottle is still almost full after several years. By the way, you cannot mix it with other oils ( must clean valves before applying the first time).
  3. fraserhutch

    fraserhutch Mezzo Piano User

    Jan 23, 2004
    Novato, CA, USA
    I oil my valves liberally everyday - I have been told by a number of horn techs the same as a previous poster mentioned: that if I wait for the valves to get sluggish then wear is already occurring. To date I have never had any issue with the valves on any of my horns.
  4. TerryR

    TerryR Pianissimo User

    Jun 3, 2012
    Quakertown PA
    Blue Juice -

    I put a couple drops in each valve almost every practice session.
  5. chaplainentrekin

    chaplainentrekin New Friend

    Feb 23, 2010
    Ft. Rucker, AL
    How much, how often, (and what) has depended on the horn for me. I would use 2 drops of Alisyn on each valves of my Strad. Worked great and lasted for weeks with hours of daily playing. For my older Ambassador and Galaxy, I use Hetmans #3 liberally on each valve. Works for about 1-2 weeks. For my Martin Indiana, the valves are old, but not worn. So I use blue juice, and yes, I pour it down the leadpipe and blow through. I do this every time I play. - Chap
  6. chenzo

    chenzo Piano User

    Jul 18, 2008
    Use ultra pure every time I get the horn out..(every day )....this is after I have given the valves a wipe with a cheese cloth (clean). Never had a problem,and valves work as they suppose to.
    The only instrument that I don't use Ultra Pure is my new Xeno cornet. Found that using the Yamaha light valve oil works best for this cornet.
    But I must say that keeping the valves clean,wiping them clean before applying the oil and not oiling over old oil is the way to go.
  7. AKtrumpet

    AKtrumpet Piano User

    Jun 4, 2010
    Yuck! It has dye in it, or so I've been told. No good!
  8. PiGuy_314

    PiGuy_314 Pianissimo User

    Oct 12, 2013
    I have never heard that before, but my experience seems to back it up.
  9. robrtx

    robrtx Mezzo Forte User

    May 26, 2012
    A little lime juice in the valves, salt around the mouthpiece and a shot of tequila keep player and horn lubed just fine.....:lol:

    But seriously :think: once every other day whether it needs it or not is what I usually do, or before playing if the horn has been sitting a bit..........

    I let the horn decide whether it wants Ultra Pure, or Hetman's 1, 2, or 3.........usually fast and tight valves (read: Schilke, Getzen ) get the Ultra Pure
  10. redintheface

    redintheface Pianissimo User

    Nov 8, 2010
    Bath, UK
    I used to use Blue Juice on my LB Strad. Then after only a few weeks, it needed oiling more and more frequently (to the point where I'd oil before a rehearsal, then again every 20 minutes during!), and I was washing the whole thing every couple of days too! A quick trip to my local, Denis Woodward, recommended Ultra Pure, and I've never had a problem since. The Strad has gone weeks without oiling and not a sign of slowing down, although I don't let it go that long usually, force of habit!

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