How to play the cornet

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  2. Sethoflagos

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    Not really. The instrument on the right is not what the rest of the world understands a typical cornet to be like, either in appearance or sound. It just muddies the waters.
     
  3. rowuk

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    Bad video. A lot of misinformation. The length is not the same as the resonance for irregular shaped objects is based on volume, for cylindrical tubing -length and for horn shapes it is dependent on flare.
    The mellower sound has nothing to do with the tighter wrap either. Both instruments have a similar amount of tapered to cylindrical tubing.

    The difference is the mouthpiece, the bore progression, bell taper, and bracing. I would have to do some serious testing to see how "different" an american cornet like Getzen is from a "proper" english Boosey&Hawkes or Besson is. I suspect that the sound differences are not great and most of the differences come from the mouthpiece and role models for playing.
     
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    The brass band I play in owns several Getzen Eternas, I borrow one of them. They sound as much "brass bandish" as a B&H with a Denis Wick (ALWAYS use D.W. when playing cornet.).
     
  5. rowuk

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    I'd like to measure the overtone spectrum and quantify the difference. I think that my chops are stable enough to make the comparison fair.
     
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    I've noticed that many trumpeters becames angry when they have to play cornet as opposed to the supposed trumpet. Why do you think it is like that? :)
     
  7. Sethoflagos

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    I wouldn't expect too much difference either, the Getzen Eterna (if not exactly the bee's knees for the purist) is a quite respectable traditional design cornet.

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    That would be great, if you could do it. I'll bet there's already a robotic embouchure and air pump system for testing, but a steady player might be all that's needed. How would you structure the test? How many cornets, trumpets, mouthpieces? How would you control other variables?
     
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    They like to stick out...?
     
  10. rowuk

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    It is only a problem in UK influenced brass bands. I believe it has to do with the way that they hear themselves. The darker tone, bell closer to the ear, valves closer to the body and insecurity because of the different blow makes them uncomfortable. The other way around, cornet players think that the trumpet is inferior and therefore are not surprised or disappointed if something goes wrong. They just strengthened their prejudice............

    Most other countries of the world consider the cornet to be specialist and therefore not inferior or superior. Players just get on with it.

     

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