Hummel Help - Turns

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by Lil2prove, Nov 18, 2010.

  1. Lil2prove

    Lil2prove New Friend

    Nov 14, 2010
    Is there a good way to go about doing the 8 measures of turns in the hummel? They are a booger, and I'm not real sure how to approach them. Looking for a bit of guidance.
  2. s.coomer

    s.coomer Forte User

    Mar 25, 2005
    Indianapolis, In
    I have heard many soloists not do the turns, but instead make them mordents. I believe there is even an edition that prints it that way.
  3. JohnSchmitt

    JohnSchmitt New Friend

    Sep 29, 2010
    I'll second that method. You have to slow the whole thing down way too much to get those turns to not sound like the dog's breakfast. Cool if you can get them, but you wouldn't be alone in leaving them out.
  4. Haste2

    Haste2 Piano User

    Jun 16, 2010
    It's a bit easier to do the actual turns on an E-flat trumpet than a B-flat or C trumpet, since you only have two finger combinations to worry about, just second valve and just third valve.
  5. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    If you spend some time with the keyed trumpet that this was written for, you discover that "spectacular" is not really part of the design specifications.

    That being said, if the performance lives or dies on the type of turn, then there are other problems.

    I think the "correct" way is to present something that sounds like it belongs in the melodical flow. I have tried to implement real turns and never was 100% happy with the musical results. Even if it is in time, to me it sounds like the player is trying to shoehorn something in that really doesn't fit. The really ornate turns are suitable for the second movement however.

    As far as historinc background goes, checking out Hummels violin and piano (he was a virtuoso piano player) works gives you some typical application use cases.

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