Okay, I did something very stupid a long while ago as a sophmore in college (I'm 26 now). Looking back I wonder how I could make such a foolish mistake. I've always known when to stop when I got tired. If things were getting sore I put the horn down. I was playing lead in a lab band in college. I was not intending to be the lead player. But the original lead player stepped down and I was the next best thing. Things were fine for the first 3 months. My range actually increased because I was playing high notes so often. I was spitting out E's though my F's and G's were squeeky and well, not really that usable. So one day in class I was fraking and getting a lot of sloppy attacks on my high notes. Angry, as soon as class was over I headed up to the practice room and pounded away at my face. I played my lines over and over until I realized my face felt pretty sore. I was thinking why the hell did I do that? The next day I continued the pounding I couldn't make it through a chart in jazz band. My ego did not allow myself to just taking things down, I wanted to play all the notes. I was really hurting afterwards. My face felt stiff and painful. It was so bad I just couldn't recover. I had to find a replacement for the jazz concert as well. I was able to get a grad student to read my stuff thank god. I took 3 years off from playing. I tried playing again but only felt pain. Everything I play is a tad flat because I can't get a tight enough embouchure. I waited another 2 years and things just didn't improve. I play a lot of piano as a substitute. What my real question is how do I know if things are permanent? Do people recover from these types of injuries? I realize the muscles that control the embouchure are delicate. I mean what are my chances here?