Identifying a couple of horns

Discussion in 'Vintage Trumpets / Cornets' started by Howard Solotroff, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. Howard Solotroff

    Howard Solotroff New Friend

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    I could use a little help zeroing in on the manufacture date of a Bach Mercedes II
    Eb cornet (recently purchased). The number is 577942 and I suspect that it was made in the period 1995-2000. A Selmer/Bach representative that I spoke to recently was of no help.
    Also, does anyone know anything about a Hungarian instrument maker named
    Janos Lenhardt - active in the city of Pecs. I have one of his (alto?) trumpets that
    I plan to further restore.
    Thanks for anything!
     
  2. radiobob

    radiobob New Friend

    found this on a quick Google search:

    Lenhardt, János (1880, ? – 1931, Pécs)
    Museum of Music History
    János Lenhardt was a maker and dealer of instruments. He produced harps and brasses. His workshop was in Király Street in Pécs.

    Bob
     
  3. Howard Solotroff

    Howard Solotroff New Friend

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    Thanks Bob.
    The Google information is about all I know as there is little else about this
    person/firm in English that I have found. I have written to a couple of people in Hungary to see what they can add-if anything.
    HS
     
  4. Howard Solotroff

    Howard Solotroff New Friend

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    An update on the Lenhardt alto trumpet.
    1. As the seller's identity is established ONLY on an attached escutcheon, and
    2. I find a remarkable similarity between this horn and those, from the same
    time frame (post WW1), manufactured in Austria - such as Stowasser, and as
    3. Hungary had only achieved indepenance from Austria following the 1918
    Armistice and peace agreements, and was probably still quite attached
    commercially - I think it fair to conjecture that Lenhardt, Janos was simply
    a retailer who, in effect, "stencilled" instruments made elsewhere. The only references to him seem to be as having had the shop in Pecs (Funfkirschen)
    until his death in 1931.
    Now - can anyone help in backround on the Austrian brass manufacturers?
    Thanks one and all
     
  5. tom turner

    tom turner Mezzo Forte User

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    Hi,

    I think you are correct that this was a stencil. Heck, there were TONS of stencils make each year back in the glory days of the brass band craze around the world.

    Many were quite fine . . . some were not. All were made so retailers could have their own private label brand that could not be "price shopped," and thus, the store could make a profit and remain in business!

    Alas, hundreds if not thousands of brands still rest in cases in attics around the world . . . one day to resurface on ebay. Sadly, not much data seems to remain on most makers . . . including many of the great ones of 75+ years ago.

    None of this diminishes the contributions, and the unique instruments, of these many makers and shops!

    Sincerely,

    Tom Turner
     

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