In Defense of Amado (and other Plunger-Style) Water Keys

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  1. gbdeamer

    gbdeamer Forte User

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    How about Saturn water keys?

    They look a little clunky, but otherwise they sound like an improvement over Amado's
     
  2. trickg

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    How about plain old lever/cap water keys?

    Has there been any documented evidence that Amado water keys, or Saturn keys or what have you, have any performance advantage over the traditional style?

    I know some people prefer Amados because they think that it's a superior design, some people like the way they look, but I'm all about the KISS method. If I blow out a spring on a gig, or lose a cork, I can find ways to get around not having a properly functioning water key, but if an Amado falls apart, (and I've heard horror stories of that happening) what do you do?
     
  3. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

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    Saturn keys are my favourite, but at $40 a pop I can't justify more than the one that I currently have.
     
  4. BigDub

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    I have the Amados on my Getzen Eterna and find they never seem to empty all the way and are a bit more difficult to empty than the cork type. I keep them clean and have no problem with them sticking, though. I agree also with Rowuk, your hands tend to get wet. I always empty both the third valve and main tuning slide at the same time. Seems more efficient to me. Couldn't be happier with the Getzen, all in all.
     
  5. tobylou8

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    I have both types on a variety of horns. I keep them all clean and can't report any problems. I prefer Amados OR trombone style "water" keys.
     
  6. Branson

    Branson Piano User

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    The instruction states how to maintain the thing but who ever reads the instructions?
     
  7. PakWaan

    PakWaan Piano User

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    I can't stand traditional water keys. I'm an Amado guy through and through. Perhaps it's because I "grew up" on a Getzen and I'm used to them. I've never had the first problem of any kind in 40 years of playing on horns with Amados.
     
  8. trickg

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    I'm just the opposite. I had a Kanstul flugel that I loved (CCF 925) and I'd actually considered having traditional water keys added in place of the stock Amados. I never felt like they did a good job of getting the water out and as often as not I had to spin the horn end over end to drain the water out of the bell. I never have to do that with my ACB Doubler that has traditional water keys.
     
  9. tobylou8

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    Does anyone know what Flugel Arturo plays? Saw him in person and he constantly spun his Flugel.
     
  10. ConnDirectorFan

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    Nothing wrong with Amados, but I like the similar design at pollardwaterkey
     

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