In tune trumpets?

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  1. Zach

    Zach New Friend

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    Hi :-)

    I was born with 1 hand, so I can't pull out the tuning slide for chronically out of tune notes such as c#. Are their trumpets that are better when it comes to being automatically in tune?

    I know the answer is that no perfect trumpet exists that requires no moving of the tuning slide. However, not being able to move it, I am just asking for trumpets that excel at intonation
     
  2. Comeback

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    Merely one idea, Zach, concerning certain vintage instruments. Some of them were made to be "lipped" up or down in order to play in tune. 1st and 3rd slides were made to be adjusted, like the main tuning slide, to a position that would permit an individual player to do this with the least effort and distortion. I used to have a 1950 Blessing Standard Bb trumpet that was set up in this fashion - and the approach worked too! The old Blessing was a surprisingly good player! Best wishes to you in your effort to obtain a workable solution for your circumstance!
    Jim
     
  3. Cornyandy

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    My older model B and S Sonora is a cracking horn despite being a fairly narrow bore and all I do with that is leave the 3rd slide out about a quarter inch and listen very carefully and lip it in from there. What I find is that it brings the normal duff notes in tune then say Ab is a little under but I find it easier to lip up than down.
     
  4. amzi

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    Pull out your 3rd slide a bit--should be enough to make low "D" and "C#" in tune. "Eb" and Ab" will be a little flat, but it's reasonably easy to lip them into tune. Works for old flugelhorns that lack a 3rd valve slide trigger too. It would be perfect, but you should be able to work it out from there.
     
  5. Zach

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    Thanks All. You're all awesome!
     
  6. gmonady

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    And there are always false fingerings.
     
  7. SteveRicks

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    Yes, the lowerDb is your biggest difficulty. While most horns today come with first slides, I played an Olds Super for most of my career and it did not have a first slide- never needed it. Personally, the Olds Super and King Liberty horns play very in tune. I use both today - liberty for daily practice, Super for jazz band.
     
  8. RRVancil

    RRVancil Piano User

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    Hi Zach,
    How about using a first valve trigger ? This would help with C# and D. G# wouldn't have to be lipped so much, and the only note you'd have to worry about would be D#.
     
  9. FrenchBesson

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    Elden Benge made a first valve trigger that one pushed. It is a little pearl button that one pushes with the left thumb. Zig Kanstul may have a few around. They were installed on some Burbank Benges.
     
  10. VetPsychWars

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    Buescher instruments play very well in tune, some better than others. The horns I've personally played, made between about 1935 and 1960, are very easy to lip in, the low D for sure, and the Db can be with a little practice. These instruments are somewhat rare, so if you can find one and it suits you otherwise, you should be able to work well with it.

    James Burke played Buescher instruments... some were stock and some were factory modified for him, as he had to use his left hand. That's quite an endorsement, in my view.

    Tom
     

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