Is it true that the o-rings used to silence slide movement effect the sound?

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by trumpeter345, May 30, 2011.

  1. kingtrumpet

    kingtrumpet Utimate User

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    oh no -- my King Silver Flair has been missing an "O" ring on the third valve slide for the last 6 months -- I've been contemplating how this affects the balance of the horn (that side being lighter now), and also where the "O" ring actually went to when it fell off. but I like the balance of the horn now that it is a bit lighter -- perhaps I should take the other "O" ring off the 3rd valve slide -- Maybe not!!, then I might have to take in all those effects and then worry about adding a "dime" to the bottom cap of the 2nd valve to offset this change in weight. MMMMMMMM.. now I am curious as to what "O" rings are made of --- and who actually thought of this ingenious idea -- and the list goes on - ROFL, ROFL --- and to think the OP had a serious question and I make fun of that - shame on me ROFL
     
  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    the O ring on my Monette Prana valve caps does make a difference. Very easy to demonstrate. Not reproducable on my Bach 229 CL or previous 72*. I tried a Monette cap on my Getzen 4 valved flugel - I'll keep the results for myself - for now.

    By the way, You would have to drill a hole in the dime for it to work correctly. The weight is selectively coupled to the valve block with O rings. They are soft rubber.
     
  3. kingtrumpet

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    *********my apologies to trumpeter345 the OP************
    anyways my King doesn't seem to suffer any ill effects at all
    ------by golly ----- I didn't realize I was supposed to drill a hole in a perfectly good dime, no wonder when I try to "pimp" my horn with all the ideas here on TM, it never seems to work.

    ps. oh no -- kingtrumpet is like Rush Limbaugh now -- only 99.4% correct, no wonder I can't find an agent -- I'm difficult to get along with!! ROFL
     
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  4. bagmangood

    bagmangood Forte User

    For what its worth, I find the D and Dbs in the staff are more in tune without the rubber o-rings on the 1st valve slide, but doesn't matter for the 3rd (and I appreciate the less noise)
     
  5. B15M

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    I don't think the rings on the slide will change anything except make them a little quieter.
     
  6. tobylou8

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    +1000% and thats their purpose.
     
  7. CaptainAddy

    CaptainAddy Pianissimo User

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    Robin... is that the kind of thing that Dave is always talking about, how production horns could be so much better if they just changed a few things, with little to no cost change to them? I'm dying over here!
     
  8. Dale Proctor

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    When I'm able to play an instrument at 100% of its capacity, and I feel it's holding me back, then I'll start looking for a better horn or worrying about o-rings and such...until then, I know some dedicated practice on my weak points will do a lot more good.
     
  9. tobylou8

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    :bravo::bravo::bravo: Here's to that sage advice.
     
  10. B15M

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    While practising is good advice, it's not the point of the thread. There have been a lot of threads about making a horn better or just practise more. Where do you draw the line on how good a trumpet can be?
     

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