Is my band director wrong?

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  1. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    One of the things that helps conductors live longer than trumpet players is that they are on the right side of the baton. We don't get paid for "liking" what the conductor does, we get paid for getting in THEIR HEAD and giving them what they want.

    We can't determine if the thread owner has ears, musical common sense or anything else, so instead of dumping on the teacher, perhaps the best route is to promote communication. No conductor likes to be called out in front of the band, so make an appointment, maybe even record the next rehearsal to judge if what you hear is what they hear. Conflict resolution is always best achieved one on one before or AFTER a rehearsal.

    I'll bet the conductor is right in this case.
     
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  3. whyit

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    Have you ever heard: If you have to ask? My high school band director was an armytrombonist, so even when he WAS wrong, he WAS right. Period, end of conversation. In four years of high school he ejected three students, which was hard to do in a public school in the 90's but in the end it was his group, his interpretation of how it should sound.
     
  4. Ed Lee

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    Don't know about your band director, but way back when there was no problem for my band director to dismiss a player from band. About every other player knew why, but I believe a major reason was that player's lack of practice at home. True, the Director would have had problems ejecting the player from school, but even that could have been justified had he done so ... which to my knowledge he didn't. Still, I need more than the fingers on both my hands to count the ones he did dismiss or they were asked by him to leave band. One of them sat in the chair next to me ... what a relief.
     
  5. gzent

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    I can't even imagine that happening these days. The kid's parents would be on the director with the threat of lawyers if
    a director booted a kid out of band.
     
  6. BinaryHulledIon

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    That depends entirely if participation in the school's band was part of the curriculum. Now, when I went to school, participation was graded, and as long as you made an effort you got a passing grade, while missing events would lower that grade. However, our band director didn't use a chair system and heavily encouraged everybody to participate in at least one competition band per year (I usually did all three which were available to me). Those bands were also subject to the director's approval; each one had a reserve band which would be used as people either didn't show or the director just had their fill with them.

    Let's make an analogy real fast. If you were playing WR on the football team and the coach had specifically laid out your route as a second option to the QB, then you need to stick to your route. If you take an out pattern and turn it into a slant, your QB is going to look for you where you were supposed to be, and not seeing you there, start looking for another option (and, consequently, get sacked).

    Playing in a band means playing as a group, and if everybody in the group did their own thing, it'd wind up sounding like some sort of experimental polyphonic thing. It's not meant to squash your individuality, but section/soli work is not the time for individuality. Establish your reputation as a solid and dependable section player, and then you might get trusted with some solo or feature work where you're a little more free to have some embellishment.
     
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  7. mgcoleman

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    It does not matter whether he or she is right or wrong, the director makes the decision and it is your job to execute that decision.
     
  8. Churchman

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    Just get some braces - cheaper that way... ROFL
     
  9. trumpeterjake

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    Directors are right. Just do what is told. You might think it sounds pretty from where you are sitting but to people listening you might be sticking out like a sore thumb. Tone quality and how much dynamic contrast you're using here is the key. My directors allow my to add dynamics thoughout a piece but it's because they have taught me through private lessons and stuff when it's in good taste to do so. Sometimes we as humans are bias to what we hear, meaning we think it's better then what it really is to everyone else.
     
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