is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

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  1. saxophonist56

    saxophonist56 Piano User

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    i found one for sale supposed to be C sharp . i'm thinking it's not really. thx in advance for any info i can't find it online.
     
  2. stumac

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    With the tuning slide fully in sometimes may play sharp enough to be mistaken for C#, I know of Db Piccolos and there may have been a Db trumpet built as a special.

    Regards, Stuart.
     
  3. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    Benge did not build "oddly pitched" instruments. There is no requirement for them in classical, jazz or band music. There is high pitch and low pitch however, high pitch being our modern A=440. Low pitch is around a quarter tone lower. A trumpet in C# therefore would be a D trumpet in low pitch. I have never seen anything like this.

    That all being said, their is Vienna pitch, which is a half step higher (A=465). Trumpets built for this pitch are a half step higher. They play rotary instruments however, not Benge.
     
  4. saxophonist56

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    guys thx for the input. is a 60's benge c trumpet desirable?
     
  5. Peter McNeill

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  6. Sterling

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    I once saw Armando Ghittala play the Tomasi Concerto on a Dflat trumpet that he had Yamaha make for him. He thought that it made the fingering easier. It's nice to be a rep for a trumpet company!
     
  7. veery715

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    Later UMI branded Benges (think 1990s) included the Leonore model in C. It is much more to be one of those than any other Benge in C.
     
  8. VetPsychWars

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    Had brain fart there, old man. :-) Low pitch is A440. High pitch is A452-ish.

    Tom
     
  9. Sterling

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    Nope. Baroque low pitch is A= 417 ish. My Webb of London Natural Trumpet has crooks to put it in that tuning. have some Civil war cornets and keyed bugle that are A=458.
     
  10. VetPsychWars

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    If that is in reply to me, baroque low pitch is something completely different. There were, of course, a variety of "high pitch" values but in discussion about our modern US trumpets, the numbers above are mostly correct.

    Tom
     

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