Jet Tone Al Hirt D -strange vibration

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  1. chet fan

    chet fan Piano User

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    This MPC is great -it is so comfortable -and I can play really with ease. Ok my range shortened a bit - but my endurance improved. And it is all fine.

    What worries me is that strange vibration occurs inside the MPC -affecting the tone?

    Now, I do not know what it could be. I am fearing it myz be double buzz - something that never ever occured to me -and I do not even know how double buzz fels -thats why I am scared that this could be double buzz

    That strange vibration however does not sound ugly -it just sounds strange.

    But it worries me ony because I think it might be double buzz.

    On the other hand -maybe it is something perfectly normal for jet tone al hirt d mpc -and I have nothing to worry about.

    Thats why I am asking you to tell me what it could be

    thank you
     
  2. CaptainAddy

    CaptainAddy Pianissimo User

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    I have the same mouthpiece in question- unfortunately, I don't care for it, but if it gives you such a strange problem (which it does not for me)- quit using it!
     
  3. gmonady

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    I am confused. How can a mouth piece that shortens your range, and affects your tone quality be great? All this, just for the sake of endurance? Is that trade off really worth it? I would recommend looking for another mouthpiece that gives you a grand slam.
    Look at other brands with similar rim size, but different levels of shallow bevel, but don't settle.

    I tried the Al Hirt Jettone, as the chart sizing’s state it was the same as my Jettone Studio B. This was far from the truth, as my Studio B does hit a grand slam for me while the Al Hirt barely got me to first base.
     
  4. coolerdave

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    are you leaking air around the mouthpiece?
     
  5. chet fan

    chet fan Piano User

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    well it shortened my range in high regisrte but I can still play high C comfortably -so it is no big deal

    but it improved my lower register that is now full and with more power

    also it affects tone -but not in a bad way -only in a strange way

    maybe it doesnt even affect the tone -only my sensation of the tone -because what I feel is strange vibration

    but band director didnt sayanything about the tone -so I guess it is ok
     
  6. chet fan

    chet fan Piano User

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    I know what you mean -the answer is no

    Sometimes I leak but on purpose -only to practice playing without pressure
     
  7. chet fan

    chet fan Piano User

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    why dont you like it. It feels good -it feels soft on lips -almost as if it was made of some soft rubber -so endurance improves greatly

    and its all because of that unusuall rim

    it is also huge and gives you big and powerfull tone

    articulation is easier too
     
  8. hichez

    hichez Pianissimo User

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    If you now have better endurance why not just go back to your old mouthpiece. It doesn't seem that you have full control with your trumpet playing if you cant get the desired tone you want.

    Ask yourself was endurance really that big of a problem with my old mouthpiece. Is control of tone important? It the high register needed in the music I play?

    If it ain't broke don't fix it. It doesn't sound like you really needed to switch mouthpieces you just need some more time on the horn. Also is your band director a trumpet player?
     
  9. coolerdave

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    I use to have one of those mouthpieces when I was a kid in high school. The edge of the rim is pretty round if I remember right... but it's also a shallow cup ... I wonder if you are getting the vibraton because of that rounded lip. It also sounds like the diameter of the rim is bigger hence the increased lower end and decreased upper range..
    It's been awhile sice I played on it so I may be wrong here...
     
  10. Dave Hughes

    Dave Hughes Mezzo Forte User

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    I tried the Al Hirt, and the weird rim on it was a big problem- not a fan. I also found a decrease in range, but I knew it was the rim, b/c mouthpiecs of similar diameter and cup size didn't decrease my range like the Al Hirt did.
     

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