John Birk "Dizzy" Gillespie's trumpet

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  1. codyb226

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    Found it

    Dizzy Gillespie's Trumpet at the Smithsonian photo - Kenny Carter photos at pbase.com
     
  2. Ed Lee

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    Noted that the mouthpiece seems loose in the receiver. I do know the Smithsonian has had to cope with such among many of their displays due to vibrations from the Metro blue line passing beneath the several museums along the Mall. It became so bad that many natural science intake technicians moved to the Smithsonian display shops in Suitland MD so that they could carefully catalog mark the specimens with their fine ink pens (Gillott tit quills made in France).

    For a time I was an FPO in the area and my wife then worked in the HHS Humphrey Building at 300 Independence Avenue. From time to time I was also assigned to the Federal complex in Suitland MD and to Federal facilities in Northern VA.

    Can anyone identify the brand of mouthpiece on this trumpet?
     
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  3. codyb226

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    I saw that, one day it will fall out and cause the whole trumpet to fall, I hope somebody fixes it. As for the mouthpiece, it has a really big rim. It would be cool to know what mouthpiece Dizzy used.
     
  4. rowuk

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    Knowing about the mouthpiece is kindergarden stuff. REALLY cool is knowing why Dizzy used the chord changes that he did!
     
  5. bengela7

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    I heard that one day in 1953 Dizzy was doing something and he fell on his own horn bending the bell, and others think he bought it when he saw it in 1937.
     
  6. gmonady

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    He played a lot of ii,v,i patterns, much from the influence of Charlie Parker.
     
  7. Ed Lee

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    IMO the "why" is understandable if you are into Afro-cuban and Be-bop genres, the later as Dizzy raised to popularity at the time. The chord changes are a composition issue, not a player issue whereas the trumpet plays only one note at a time viz to create a chord relys on other instruments to simultaneously create the "blend" and sound of a chord. Playing is not that much of a problem if one is skilled in sight reading, but to do so otherwise somewhat impromptu is a skill Dizzy had, and such has always eluded me. I've always classed chords into the subject of harmonics.
     
  8. richtom

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    Dizzy played an Al Cass mouthpiece.
    Bengela7, gmonady has posted the true story. What you heard is not correct.
    Rich T.
     
  9. Ed Lee

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    Would not the "original" be the one as was damaged with a bent bell , subsequently straightened the next day? What instrument brand was this? Where is it now? Another concern, is the provenance of how many Martins were made for Dizzy, and methinks not just one, but I also don't think Martin will or can tell. As to the King Cobra bite dents, I'll wonder if the one presently in the Smithsonian reveals such dents ... or if a Smithsonian display specialist removed them unknowingly, or if this part of his story is just hype. Did he say such in his bio? Natural curiosity about such trivia makes us all "history detectives". I'll presently just have to remain a "Thomas" until my next opportunity to visit the Smithsonian (if ever that will be).

    Otherwise, there seems to be no legal obstruction to having Martin manufacture a duplicate, if one has the green cash. Just don't look for me to do so. I've presently other "irons in the fire".
     
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