I visited the Kanstul factory yesterday and had a nice tour with Charles. He is very knowledgeable about what they do there. Things ARE slow, with the current focus on tubas. They are set up to go full steam once they get an order, and all horns are built on order. They spend the time between orders building parts, for their horns and for other companies. The place is amazing, and I saw one of Trent's horns in the line-up for work. Charles said very nice things about you, Trent. I saw copper flugel bells all flattened out and getting the brazed seam pressure rolled. Hard to believe they round them out again and they become the beautiful finished bell like on my 1525. Oh, and the trombone bells are still made by Zig himself! I met Jim New at his CNC machine, making mouthpieces. And bought an M (p) replica. Zig looked my 47 Olds Super Recording over and recommended my just playing it and not having it worked on. He found red rot on the bell and once the bell on such a horn is replaced it isn't an SR any more. The horn does play OK, so I will play it and perhaps look to selling it later. I bought it long distance and paid way too much - but that is how it goes!