Well, I just got back from visiting Charles and Zig. They are really cool people and down to earth. So after finishing his lunch, Zig comes over and takes a look at my 50's New York Symphony. Say's "Lead pipe has red rot and well as your tuning slide". Then, looks the horn over and tells me it will take about an hour to work out the damage on the bell. Then he says, if you replace the tunning slide and lead pipe, we'll get your horn in like new condition. Wrote down a list of work to be done and then shows me the price. Wow, "I love Kanstul" is all I have to say.