Lewington McCann and Xeno

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  1. alant

    alant Pianissimo User

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    Anyone played a Lewington MCCann with a Xeno, because Yamaha apparantly have made their lead pipe slightly bigger the mouthpiece goes in too far making the cornet very sharp. You have to pull the tunning slide out too far to bring it in tune. Any ideas anyone?
     
  2. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

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    Mouthpieces go in to the Mouthpiece receiver, not the leadpipe.
    Are you sure you are using the proper taper for the cornet?
     
  3. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    How much further can the mouthpiece go in? 1/4"? if so, that is not excessive tuning slide movement. If you are playing noticably too sharp on a cornet, then there must be more issues than the size of the shank.

    Please note that Yamaha has designed the Xeno from the bottom up. IF the receiver is a bit larger, any quality mouthpiece company will have a suitable shank available for the cup/rim size. That would probably also allow for a more open backbore for the total design. That could very well offer performance advantages.
     
  4. alant

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    The cup of the McCann mouthpiece almost touches the mouthpiece receiver. goes in about 3/4 inch more than you would expect.
     
  5. rowuk

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    Sounds more like McCan't to me.
     
  6. GordonH

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    Thats because the McCann is made to fit the old B&H receiver as used on the original sovereign cornet (and the Yamaha Maestro).
    B&H made theirs bigger later on and a lot of modern cornets for the brass band market have followed suit.
    Try putting a modern wick MP in an original sovereign and it will stick much further out than a very old Wick mp.
    Its incredible that they got away with it, but they did, and nobody noticed as they had such a large percentage of the market.
    Bob Stevenson on Trumpet Herald has done a survey and done all the measurements to show when the change happened.

    FYI, the McCann mouthpiece just fits my 1989 sovereign but it goes very far in.
     

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