Lip Buzzing help, please

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  1. Trumpet guy

    Trumpet guy Forte User

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    I've been having a problem recently. I have been trying to learn how to lip buzz but have had no luck. When I asked my teacher he said I was using too much muscle pressure and that the buzz wouldn't come out that way. So I tried to back off the pressure, but that just pushed my aperture wide open. In the end my buzz turns out to be either atonal or very low pitched and unfocused. I don't see what could be wrong.
     
  2. Miyot

    Miyot Pianissimo User

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    Play a second line G or any note you feel comfortable with on the horn. Slowly remove the horn from your lips while still playing your note. Keep tryin till you get it. I think I saw this on Nick Drozdoffs web site.
     
  3. Smirnus

    Smirnus New Friend

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    I went through many teachers but the best advice I got was from a fr. horn orchestra director, to blow straight ahead so my air was focus straight through the mouthpiece, into the leadpipe, not up or down.

    I decided not to mess with my lips anymore, just to blow straight ahead (w/o mp) then gradually focus my lips to support the air and eventually get a buzz. If I focused the air up or down I started over. When I got the buzz down, I added the mp. If I could buzz mothpiece, remove it and air still went straight ahead, I added horn. After I got the habit set, attacks were consistent, moving between notes no longer scary. Hope this helps.
     
  4. eisprl

    eisprl Mezzo Piano User

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    It's common for trumpet players not being able to buzz without a mouthpiece. Why exactly do you hope to gain from this? (I'm just interested). I do it, sometimes but I don't know why I do. Arnold Jacobs said that it doesn't really accomplish anything and that you need the "pressure" of a mouthpiece or buzzing aid to build the correct muscles that will be used while playing the horn. Stop me if I'm wrong, but buzzing without your mouthpiece could develop muscles that you don't want developed?
     
  5. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    I would suggest buzzing with just the mouthpiece for a while then attempting the free buzz. There can be some benefits in learning to relax more. There is no mouthpiece pressure to define the edges of what vibrates. 5 min a day max are all that one needs.
     

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