Lip trills

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  1. cobragamer

    cobragamer Pianissimo User

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    How would some one work on being able to do a lip trill like in the hummel trumpet concerto.
     
  2. Stile442

    Stile442 Piano User

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    maybe I have a different version but I dont recall a lip trill anywhere in the Hummel. :think:
     
  3. BenH

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    Can't speak for whether there's a lip trill in the Hummel, but for doing lip trills in general - Colins Lip Flexibilities. Read the instructions carefully, take it slowly, and build it up. My lip trills are coming on quite well now as a result.
     
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  5. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    I also don't know of any lip trill in the Hummel.

    In any case, liptrills go like this:


    Taaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeaaaaeeeeaaaeeeaaeeaeaeaeaeaeaeaea. Repeat until you get it, then move to other notes.
     
  6. trumpetnick

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    Robin,

    No need to ridiculise the OP. Everyone has to learn at one point about stylistic requirements for piece X. For classical pieces such as Haydn and Hummel is common to think that a lip trill is bad taste. I am not sure whether how it is done on keyed trumpet but yes, it is not recommended to do it anyway. As for working to get a lip trill, there is Arban, Schlossberg, Colin and many others. Whistling it may help to figure out what to do with the tongue while lip trilling.
     
  7. Markie

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    Do lip trills using the 7 valve combinations:
    Start as low as you can, go as high as you can, and come back down in one breath. Chances are, if you can't do lip slurs very well, this exercise will kick your butt but, you'll be stronger if you hang in there.
    Here's the combination:
    Open
    123
    13
    23
    12
    1
    2
     
  8. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    Nick, I was actually serious. Liptrills are no more than taaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeaaaaeeeeaaaee........ You only, like with everything else trumpet, need to practice. Colin is a great book, but will not "teach" you anything. You nead to learn how and that is by doing. Taaaeee real slow at the beginning and then get faster as your chops cooperate.

    With the keyed trumpet you have to lip trill like with the natural trumpet for many notes. On a modern trumpet in Bb or Eb all the trills can be played with the valves although the G-A trill on top of the staff only works when your air is moving.
     
  9. Trumpet Dad

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    Arbans page 43 #20. Clear, smooth, easy, then gradually build up speed.
     
  10. cmel

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    yep i've found that pages 42 - 45 are all very good for lip trills and flexibility. for all of these it is very important to stay perfectly in time because keeping them in time is what really builds the control, so use a metronome. you dont need to do threm at the written speeds at first, but stay within reason. i also found that having a very strong #16-18 pg 42 really helps and dont move on until you've got those really solid then the others are soooo much easier. oh and do the suggested fingerings even though it may seem a bit dumb. hope this helps.
     

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