Louis Armstrong

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  1. jim miller

    jim miller Pianissimo User

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    just finished terry Teachout's book on Louis. Quite good I thought. Written by a musician. Lots of good & interesting material about numerous facets of trumpet playing. When Louis died in 1971 he had 5 horns. Anyone know what these were??? I know he played on Conn & Selmer. It would be interesting to know about these horns?? and mouthpieces if anyone knows. Thanks & regards to all. jim miller
     
  2. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

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    is first cornet:
    simply marked "Made in Austria" (probably made in Boehmen)
    Tonk cornet/Chicago on the riverboats.
    York cornet/Grand Rapids - (from Joe Oliver);
    Harry B Jay Columbia cornet,trumpet leadpipe/mpc (Oliver Creole Jazz Band)
    Blessing Super Artist cornets
    Switched to Buescher 10-22R trumpet for his Hot five/seven recordings
    Conn 56B
    Selmer Challenger,ie balanced forward to Grand Prix with a #19leadpipe.
    (3 of his horns are still at his home in Corona Nyc.)
    Martin Troubadour trumpet (in the 1932 film "Rhapsody in Black and Blue")


    MP:
    Giardinelli LA;
    various Al Cass/Giardinelli NYC/Bachs
    7C Leblanc France
    Parduba double-cup (?)
    Selmer Special
    In the 1960s, Schilke made a number of mouthpieces for him.
     
  3. jim miller

    jim miller Pianissimo User

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    Thanks for all this info!!! was it in some other books or publications??? jim
     
  4. MFfan

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    having a 56B myself I had a look through google images and found a picture of him with it when he was young and in the bottom (I think) left corner it has theatrical chicargo or something, probably played it during his time in the pit and I managed to find one recording on youtube of him in that group.

    YouTube - Static Strut - 1926 -50's reissue- (Mark VI)
     
  6. MFfan

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    Thanks for the clip, very interesting to hear that era of recording and Louis.
     
  7. optiguytom

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    I bought a Buescher 10-22 on Ebay a few weeks ago because I heard Louis played one on his Hot 5 and 7 recordings. Does anyone know what the difference is between the 10-22R Louis was supposed to have played and my 1925 vintage 10-22. I guessed his may have been about a '25 vintage too. I am looking for an extra slide to make it play in Bb.
     
  8. dhbailey

    dhbailey Piano User

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    What does it play in now? A?
     
  9. optiguytom

    optiguytom Pianissimo User

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    That's my understanding. I am not familiar enough yet to really know. My wife is a pianist... is there some way to tell by comparing it to the piano?

    I do know these were supposed to play in A and Bb, so I am guessing that making the tubing longer with an extra slide would take it to the higher Bb...right?
     
  10. Bixel

    Bixel Pianissimo User

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    Play the lowest (real) note on the trumpet.
    If it is an A on the piano, it's a trumpet in A.
    If it is a Bb on the piano, it's a trumpet in ...

    Wrong.
    To make a Bb trumpet an A trumpet you have to add some tube material. That is easily achieved by pulling out the tuning slide by about 1,6 inches.
    And, too, it takes a longer set of valve slides actually.

    To make an A trumpet a Bb trumpet you have to remove some tube material.
    So if on your what seems to be an A/Bb trumpet there is nothing to be removed it to me appears to be the Bb situation.
     
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