Low pitch to high pitch .... why?

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  1. turtlejimmy

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    Does anyone know why concert pitch was changed to 440?


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  3. Dale Proctor

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    Yeah, but why did they pick 440?
     
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    It's easier to say. It just rolls off the tongue (at least in English). Only 3 syllables vs 4!
     
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    The reason I ask is that I got into a long conversation last night around a growing conspiracy theory that includes disharmonic frequencies and cites Hitler as the culprit behind the change to 440. I'm a conspiracty theory fan ..... I don't believe any of them, but they're fun to listen to.

    So ......... apparently there are a lot of musicians who are unhappy with 440, which they are claiming is not based on naturally occurring frequencies in nature (not sure what those are), leading to discordant, unharmonious music that isn't as good for us as if it was at 432 (close to Mozart's preferred pitch). There is even computer software that will convert recordings from 440 to 432 (that wouldn't be difficult), so that you can convert music back to "where it should have been." I heard a "low pitch" version of "Yesterday" by the Beatles, and I could hear the difference. I'm sure it's only because I know the song so well .... I don't have perfect pitch. The real test, I guess, is to convert everything you listen to (except live or the radio) and live with that for a while and see how it makes you feel. :dontknow:

    The suggestion was made for me to try it for a while, with guitar and singing, to see if it isn't a lot easier to sing at this lower pitch. I'm game.


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    "The recent rediscoveries of the vibratory/oscillatory nature of the universe indicates that current contemporary A=440hz international concert pitch standard may possibly generate an unhealthy effect or anti-social behavior in the consciousness of human beings."

    From a website that promotes changing concert pitch back to 432.

    Another website:

    "By retuning musical instruments and using Concert Pitch at A=432 hz, you can feel the difference of awareness…If we look at the 20th century and the use of 440 hz – 460hz as mind control in mass media pushed through the “British Invasion” of Rock & Roll in the 50s & 60s we see the dangers of using higher and higher pitches as central references for music in the collective consciousness of social behavior.

    This information was well known over a hundred years ago and Rudolf Steiner warned mankind that using such “luciferic” and “Arhimanic” bright tones would bring a condensing of the greed satanic forces in the west instead of C=128 hz A=432 hz which he mentioned was related to sun Christ conscious awareness in the evolution of man. Unfortunately most western music, including popular new age healing music is still tuned at unnatural A=440 hz tuning. The difference between A=440 hz and A=432 hz is only 8 vibrations per second, but it is a perceptible difference in the experience of unique conscious awareness."

    Another:

    "Music is the healing force of the universe, but not at 440 hz."


    This stuff is all over the internet.:lol:



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  8. gmonady

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    So is this suggesting that 440 will pitch a fit?
     
  9. turtlejimmy

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    YES! You got it, G-Man. You're in the club.

    That explains my ex's behavior (a violinist). She's pitched too high.

    Trumpets won't go down to 432 anymore ......... :)-()........ except for those of us who have a horn from the 20's (1924 Martin Handcraft). I guess it's adios Olds Recording ..... a satanically pitched trumpet.:-?


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  10. Dupac

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    Yes, it's a large conspiracy : the gaggle of Canadian geese has been measured at 440 Hz !
     

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