Low pitch to high pitch .... why?

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  1. turtlejimmy

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    It's a honking conspiracy. :noway::-P


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  2. Dupac

    Dupac Fortissimo User

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    Do not change the 440 Hz !
     
  3. turtlejimmy

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    It won't be easy to change it back ...... It's the ............. A-440 Team. :D



    My own personal conclusion in all this is that 440 must be wrong. Mozart preferred something else and ...... you're going to argue with Mozart? About a musical issue? Mozart?

    Mozart vs collective human thinking ........ I'm going with Mozart. :cool:


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  4. gmonady

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    No....No....Say it ain't So!
    Getting rid of the wife... well I can understand that but...

    Getting rid of the Olds Recording?

    ARE YOU INSANE!!??

    Quick, put the aluminium foil over your head NOW to keep those 440 Hz vibrations from making your brain consider something horrific... like getting rid of a RECORDING!
     
  5. rowuk

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    Back in Mozarts time, every major city had their own "chamber tuning frequency". Mozarts own tuning fork was tuned to 421.6 Hz.

    Even today, A=440 is NOT universally accepted or even used. Most orchestras in Germany tune to A=443, the wind bands use A=442, last time that I played in Vienna, we used A=446. There are enough pipe organs here still tuned to the old Chorton A=465. I regularly perform in churches with these instruments and just play the D major baroque trumpet concertos in Eb.............


    If we are looking for real reasons, there is one compelling argument for A=415. In the Balmer Series of the spectra of hydrogen we have a frequency of 456673800000000 Hz. That is 40 octaves higher than A=415. There is plenty of hydrogen in the universe and I guess that would be a major factor in establishing a "universal" tuning note.

    For those that just can't get enough, some personal recommendations:

    A History of Performing Pitch: The Story of 'A'
    Bruce Haynes
    Scarecrow Pr Inc. 2002

    Tuning and Temperament: A Historical Survey
    J. Murray Barbour
    Dover Pubn Inc. 2004

    How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (and Why You Should Care)
    Ross W. Duffin
    W W Norton & Co 2008


    I don't believe that I just typed this post, what a nerd I am..............

    Boy, what I do for you all!
     
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    Gary,

    I was just kidding. Check your blood pressure, listen to a little Bach (at 432 hz) and call me in the morning. :lol:

    Serenity now ..... serenity now ....


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  7. turtlejimmy

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    And, speaking of Bach ....... Whatever HE preferred should be what we go with. I mean, who's idea was 440? Let's see their musical credentials. :noway:


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  8. gmonady

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    Hey, that didn't Herz too much did it... and all for our benefit... How could I award you anthing less than an A!! Or perhaps even an A+ at 443 (after all, you do live in Germany)!
     
  9. Bochawa!!!

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    Up here in the Great White North we have "The Team ,eh?" (We also have Magnum PEI, but that's another story)

    Isn't pitch relative? I mean, at what point does a low pitch A become Ab, and high pitch A become A#? Maybe we could add to our horns a quartertone valve with a trigger and play in "endless'" scales? Just a thought.

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  10. jiarby

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    It doesn't matter what frequency they decide to make an "A".... some of the guys in my community band won't be able to find that one either!
     

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