Martin Cornet

Discussion in 'Vintage Trumpets / Cornets' started by Richard Jarvis, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. Richard Jarvis

    Richard Jarvis New Friend

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    Happy to be a new member. I have a Martin Cornet Serial # 13468 on the middle valve. On the other side on the middle valve it has the number 453 union made. Can anybody tell me what date it was made. Thanks for any help.

    Richard Jarvis
     
  2. MFfan

    MFfan Fortissimo User

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    Kirmser's list shows somewhere between 65-67 I am not sure that is right.They apparently re-started the numbers around 1950? The Martin serial list on Horn-u-copia is completely different and would place your horn prior to 1919. What the does the Bell inscription read? The Martin company was established in Chicago prior to 1891, in 1906 it was re-established in Elkart, Ind, later sold to Wurlitzer company and purchased by LeBlanc and moved to Kenosha , Wi in 71. HUC has a photo of a Martin cornet 17886, c . 1971., not sure if that is right either and I had questioned that but never received a reply. There is a shepherd's crook cornet, 11420 which is dated 1915-1917 on HUC. Take a look at that site and see if any of the cornets look familiar. I would think the Union Made mark would put it to a fairly early model

    Some pics would be nice.
    Welcome to the forum.:-)
     
  3. edcon1981

    edcon1981 Mezzo Forte User

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    welcome to tm!~
     
  4. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

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    Welcome to TrumpetMaster Richard.

    We hope you enjoy your time here!

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  5. Richard Jarvis

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    Thanks for your reply. I suspect that the Cornet I have is prior to 1909. I bought it used in 1959 or 1960 from a church that used to have a band in the early days. It was in top condition. I let my nephew use it as a member of a school band. I have the original case which is covered wood. I also have the lyre, extra tuning slide & cleaning rod. I just had it gone over. Polished, valves cleaned & oiled, new corks & the dings & dents taken out. The bell has beauiful engravings on it. The lettering on the bell is as follows. THE MARTIN BAND INST. CO ELKART IND. Will take some pictures this weekend. I will send them to you.

    Thanks,
    Dick Jarvis
     
  6. MFfan

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    You are probably right on the vintage. The HUC list only goes back to 1919, 17221. Thanks for posting some pics in the future. Looks like you have a good one, maybe Bb-A with the extra slide.
     
  7. Richard Jarvis

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    Here are the photos I promised.
     

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  8. Darthsunshine

    Darthsunshine Mezzo Forte User

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    Welcome to TM. That's a nice old cornet that you have there!
     
  9. veery715

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    Very pretty! The "strap" style slide braces and valve bottom caps with the small nipple are typical of cornets from the early 1900s. The original case is a nice bonus and boosts its value.
    The extra tuning slide is a puzzle. It seems of the "reverse lead pipe design" and doesn't look to me like it will fit the horn because the slide now on the horn looks to have two male tubes (the inside sliding ones) of equal length (overall U shape with even legs) and the spare has one male and one female and is a J shape.
    It's OK for playing though if it's set for Bb at the A440 standard as set up.
    veery

    This thread, BTW, really belongs in the "Vintage Trumpets & Cornets" forum.
     
  10. Richard Jarvis

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    The tuning slide on the horn is a male & female. The extra slide is a male & female. I just tried the extra slide in the horn and it fits fine. Is their a way I can transfer the threads about this horn to the "Vintage Trumpets & Cornet" forum as you suggested? Thank You Very Much.
    Richard
     

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