mega tone 3C w/French taper for Flugel....

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  1. crowmadic

    crowmadic Mezzo Piano User

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    I posted this in the Equipment section, and I'm posting it here for those that don't check the Equipment section often.
    I use a Mega Tone 3C mouthpiece on my Bb trumpet. I'd like to get the same feel on my Couesnon Flugelhorn. Does anyone know where I can get a Mega Tone 3C mouthpiece for Flugelhorn with a FRENCH TAPER?

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  2. trumpetnick

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    Crow,

    My opinion is that it is completely wrong to use a trumpet style mouthpiece on a flugelhorn. A c cup will make a flugelhorn sound like a wimpy trumpet, which is pointless. If I was you, I would rather look for a Bach 3FL mouthpiece or anything similar (Denis Wick 4FL comes to my mind). I that Bach flugel mouthpiece can be ordered with added wight (megatone). As for DW, I don't think that he makes any megatone mp for flugel (DW called those "Heavytop" but to my knowledge are available only for trumpet and cornet)
     
  3. crowmadic

    crowmadic Mezzo Piano User

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    trumpetnick,
    I appreciate your comment. Can you help me understand why aside from the Shank, you can't have a mouthpiece cup that duplicates your trumpet mouthpiece for your Flugelhorn? I have a Marcinkowics BSC FL w/French taper for my Couesnon Flugelhorn, but I don't like the difference in feel going from trumpet to Flugelhorn, especially if the Flugelhorn is used intermittently during a gig. I certainly don't want that Couesnon sound to become a "wimpy trumpet" sound.

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  4. dhbailey

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    The reason you shouldn't have the same cup on your flugelhorn mouthpiece as on your trumpet mouthpiece is because it's an entirely different instrument. It's not just a trumpet with a larger bell, it's an entirely different family, and needs a different mouthpiece to bring out the characteristics of that family. A flugelhorn mouthpiece needs to be a deep funnel shape and not a flattened cup like a Bach trumpet mouthpiece.

    Finding a flugelhorn mouthpiece with the same rim shape and diameter as your trumpet mouthpiece is fine, for consistency in how it interacts with your embouchure, but get one with a real flugelhorn cup.
     
  5. trumpetnick

    trumpetnick Fortissimo User

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    Crow,

    I couldn't explain it better than DHB. In fact, the flugelhorn and the cornet are members of the Horn family (Cor in french, thus making the Cornet a little horn, probably should be translated as "horny" but that gets too ambiguous :-P or hornet) - you can see now why the most appropriate mp for a cornet or a flugel should be funnel shaped.
     
  6. Al Innella

    Al Innella Forte User

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    All you people do realize this person was asking if Bach made a Mega tone 3C flugel mouthpiece with a French taper ,not a trumpet mouthpiece. With that said , if Bach doesn't make one in stock ,they could make one custom, it would cost more than a stock Bach piece, but would probably still be cheaper than some other brand's stock mouthpieces, or have someone copy your mouthpiece and put a French taper on it.
     
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  7. dhbailey

    dhbailey Piano User

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    I was replying to Crowmadic, who had asked why not simply use a trumpet-cup mouthpiece on a flugelhorn.

    I figure that anybody looking for a mouthpiece should simply go to the manufacturer and ask them, instead of asking on a forum.

    There is plenty of information on the Bach web-site about the mouthpieces they make.
     
  8. trumpetnick

    trumpetnick Fortissimo User

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    Al,

    I realize that Crow was asking about getting a 3C on a french taper, but this doesn't necessarily prevent me for questioning his reasons for using such a mouthpiece on a flugel which is Couesnon in that particular case. My point was that using 3C would probably destroy the nice mellow sound that Couesnons are famous for. Besides, getting a standard flugel mouthpiece should work better and will cost less. I don't think that Crow was irritated by my post and eventually have earned some useful knowledge about flugels.
     
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  9. trumpetnick

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  10. MTROSTER

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    So where does Monette's flumpet mouthpiece fit into the picture,or does he have a special mouthpiece for this horn?:dontknow:
     

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