.... and ours too, and are the woodwinds not always the last to turn up to rehearsal - it's as if they don't have any enthusiasm for the challenge that is trumpet. Ted Yes, another unanimous agreement from me. The sections that have the most trouble are the ones who have the poorest attendance, overall. Seeing any patterns here? That thing about sitting out the 35 bars and just as we trumpets are chomping at the bit to excel at our part.......TAP, TAP, TAP. Let's go back to "A" and try that section again..........this happens E-VE-RY rehearsal. I get to the point where I say, "I'm just not going to count this time, maybe it'll be a good omen, and they'll make it this time, just because I didn't count!"