Most difficult fingering

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  1. Satchmo Brecker

    Satchmo Brecker Piano User

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    IMHO the fingering for the combination D(1-3) Eb F is the hardest on the horn. I practice that one all the time back and forth and as part of scales, etc. I can safely say I've cleared the 1000x mark on this one. Seems like there's some kind of upper limit on how fast weaky finger 3 will go in this combination. Combo D F or Eb F I can go much faster. But D/Eb/F it's like there's a governor on my fingers. Any advice?
     
  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    2,000 repetitions during the next 30 days. Problem solved. Next?
     
  3. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

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    Sometimes freeing the right little finger from the finger ring can help. I used to torture students that didn't practice by having them play b-d combinations below the staff. After a few minutes of going between the second valve-first and third combination you could almost hear their arms scream.
     
  4. tpsiebs

    tpsiebs Piano User

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    The ring finger and the little finger are sort of connected and want to move together.

    Presumably, you are working rhythmically in 4's (sixteenth notes). Try practicing starting on F (F Eb D F, F Eb D F, F Eb D F etc.) and Eb (Eb D Eb F, Eb D Eb F, Eb D E, F etc AND Eb F Eb D, Eb F Eb D,Eb F Eb D etc) to "trick" your mind and adding some variety. Sometimes this technique, along with superimposing other rhythms (i.e. 1 + 23 or 1 2 + 3 or 1 2 3+) makes awkward fingerings like this somewhat smoother.
     
  5. Local 357

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    The D to E Flat trill on the B Flat trumpet = Low A to B Flat on the E Flat trumpet.

    With the first you need to develop huge skills with your weakest finger. The other a simple matter of depressing and removing your middle finger from the second valve. Lightning fast and better. Much less work.

    A far easier proposition. "Better living through engineering"
     
  6. Chuck Cox

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    Don't play Eb's. They are highly over rated. Problem solved.
     
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  7. jiarby

    jiarby Fortissimo User

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    you are pushing three buttons down with your fingers... they are ALL easy.

    There are NO difficult fingerings... just ones you haven't practiced enough.
     
  8. SteveRicks

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    While Chuck provides an instant fix (just tell the director Eb is against your religion) the combination is difficult. The bad news is 1000 reps is just a beginning. the good news is it will get easier. Keeping the little finger out of the hook or ring really helps me. While I usually use the ring, If I see low notes, I try to avoid the pinky ring.
     
  9. Chuck Cox

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    Luckily, I don't play for conductors. I was just being flip.
     
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