mouthpiece change question

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by daniel117, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. gmonady

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    Half the songs in the ORIGINAL songs in the EBQ song book remain above staff throughout most of the songs.... THAT is when I discovered massage. If you can massage the lactic acid out of the lip muscle and the edema out of the soft tissue, I CAN make it through a 3-4 hour performance.
     
  2. DaTrump

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    That makes my lips hurt, and it reminds me why I usually turn down small group jazz gigs.
     
  3. daniel117

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    btw why does everyone here on TM seem to think deep(ish) mps are a bad thing?
     
  4. gmonady

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    Why should it be thought of as a bad thing to have a deep mouthpiece? I play on a Jettone, Schilke 14A4a and find them comfortable for my trumpet playing... These are pretty shallow pieces, but I use a Flip Oaks 3 on my flugelhorn... which to me is like swimming in the deep end of the pool. I love the feel of this deep cup. I can move my lips to not just bend but embellish notes in a way I could never do with my shallow pieces, and yet maintain great control. So from my experience, deep cups give some flexibility to be creative with sound.
     
  5. DaTrump

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    Most players cannot handle the deep cup, especially developing players like yourself. And most of the time is more work than is worth.
     
  6. mctrumpet98

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    Yep, moving to a 1.5C is like playing into a toilet bowl at first, let alone 1 1/4C!
     
  7. tobylou8

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    Yeah, but youse guys is proffesional's!!!
     
  8. DaTrump

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    Actually, the 3B and 1.5C are close, with the 1.5C being a tad shallower
     
  9. turtlejimmy

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    The flexibility to be creative with sound is what I like best about my Prana mouthpieces. But, they are tough. Especially with range ..... So, for now, I'm back on the shallower pieces.


    Turtle
     
  10. richtom

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    The key to a cup's true measurement is it's actual volume.
    A trip to the Kanstul mouthpiece comparison site can give you an idea of volume vs depth.
    Jens Lindemann plays a mouthpiece GR made for him. It is around 16.43 MM in diameter which puts it "around" a Bach 7 and Schilke/Yamaha 11 and 12 sizes.
    However, his mouthpiece has considerable internal volume giving him a freedom to play just about everything put in front of him, be it very high or low with the sound he wants.
    Daniel, if you haven't done so already, read the sticky by Jens. If you don't want to take advice from the seasoned players here, fine, but when a world class player such as Jens takes the time to post his very learned experiences, I'd suggest you listen.
    The 1 1/2C is a larger diameter mouthpiece that produces a very "scintillating" sound. It is a very popular mouthpiece for symphonic players, including more than a few principals in major orchestras. While you may be able to handle its demands for a very well trained embouchure, it is not meant for younger players. Neither is your 3B. That mouthpiece has been used by jazz great Dave Douglas and classical great Rolf Smedvig.
    You can do what you want, but don't say you haven't been given some thoughtful, experienced advice.
    Rich T.
     

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