mouthpieces for pressure players

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  1. songbook

    songbook Piano User

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    I was just wondering if there were mouthpieces out there better suited for those of us who use to much mouthpiece pressure. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. Markie

    Markie Forte User

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    No!
    Do this.
    >Play a soft (around middle C) long tone on the trumpet and when you put the mouthpiece against the lips, just use enough pressure to create a seal.
    >Next, remove the tuning slide and play the same soft pitch.
    >Now, while playing that soft pitch, slowly press the mouthpiece against the lips. What happened? The pitch went up as you pressed and went down as you eased up on the pressure, right? If not you are already pressing too hard.
    >Next, do the same thing but this time use the corners of the lips to raise and lower the pitch. Those are the muscles you want to use. Not the bicep muscles.
    We never totally get rid of mouthpiece pressure. We learn to come to terms with it and to control it.
    Please read Mouthpiece Pressure Assessment.
    Hope this helps.
     
  3. harveyhassanator

    harveyhassanator Pianissimo User

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    this is good advice. pushing does NOT help your playing. you want to be able to play higher or louder or whatever? work your way through the Arban Cornet method, dont cheat yourself.
     
  4. songbook

    songbook Piano User

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    Thank you Markie for your reply. It's true my range improved with the tightening of my outer lip, but I found I also had to use more air from my diaphragm.
     
  5. Phil986

    Phil986 Forte User

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    That would be a good thing, in my humble opinion.
     
  6. simonstl

    simonstl Pianissimo User

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    I'm just glad no one proposed a mouthpiece that detected pressure and applied a brief electrical shock to the player.
     
  7. Markie

    Markie Forte User

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    Air is of great importance for trumpet players. Controlling your breathing can best be explained by typing in:
    Rowuk's Circle of Breath
    Urban Agnas Youtube "Flow"
    You will find these two sources very helpful.
    Remember, Rome wasn't built in a day. Just be aware when you're using too much mouthpiece pressure. If you're playing and you notice you are, stop, blow out the lips like a horse, take a drink of water, and reset the mouthpiece on the lips. We never get rid of mouthpiece pressure. We learn to control it.
     
  8. Markie

    Markie Forte User

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    For some, I don't think brief would be enough.
    However, if ECT isn't to your liking, there's also a device called a Mouthpiece Pressure Adapter. It teaches low-pressure playing. A valve inside the device opens when too much pressure is used, allowing the air to escape before it reaches the instrument and is adjustable. [FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, sans-serif]
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  9. ChopsGone

    ChopsGone Forte User

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    OK, I'm also guilty of using too much pressure at times, despite 60 years of trying. But there are mouthpieces available which make the situation a bit less painful while you're working on learning how to make do with minimal pressure. The old Giardinelli "F" (flat) rims were like that, and good reproductions of them are available in 2-piece models from Kanstul.
     
  10. songbook

    songbook Piano User

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    I'll try using all these great tips. Thanks again for your input.
     

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