My Arban Method Book is missing tempo markings o_O

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by keigoh, Aug 2, 2013.

  1. VetPsychWars

    VetPsychWars Fortissimo User

    Nov 8, 2006
    Greenfield WI
    Some of us were brought up to respect books, Dean, and would NEVER write in them. It took all I had in my being to not chop off the arm of my teacher who wrote as gently and lightly as he could in one of my older etude books. I know he was being respectful. More respectful would be to ask first.

    Mark up a copy all you want. Originals deserve respect.

  2. Dean_0

    Dean_0 Piano User

    Jan 21, 2013
    Oh that's a very different thing ! original scores and stuff that's out of print etc. should be kept pristine!!!:worthy:
  3. gmonady

    gmonady Utimate User

    Jan 28, 2011
    Dayton, Ohio
    You're a better man than I am... I would just mark them with the valve fingerings: 2,3; 3; 1,3,
  4. Ed Lee

    Ed Lee Utimate User

    Aug 16, 2009
    Jackson NC
    To really put and keep your original scores and out of print resources "pristine" would put you in the vocational capacity of a museum archival and conservator specialist who wears plenty of white gloves. Don't ask me to do it! I've just looked in every nook and cranny in the building the Library of Congress uses to process and restore such "manuscripts" and publications. It kinda irks me to see student music packed in the same space as their silver-plated instrument and then have them complain about the stains on the silver-plate that can't be removed. Yep, the culprit is the sulphides in the printed paper. Too, I don't know of any of us TMers that stores their music in acid free containers. Am I nit-pickin'?
  5. kingtrumpet

    kingtrumpet Utimate User

    Sep 20, 2009
    New York State USA
    Thank you for the thread --- I actually wondered about my Arban's also --- but My Arban's was "just missing" -- by the time I found it, I couldn't remember why I needed it in the first place!!! ROFL ROFL ROFL (I always know where my Arban's is---- at the bottom of the "unused" music books pile, it was too big to put under the coffee table leg to get it level) ROFL ROFL ROFL
  6. Dean_0

    Dean_0 Piano User

    Jan 21, 2013
    OK,,,,,,,,, before this get's out-of-hand let me explain:

    My first comment was about my practice materials -Arban's ,(an ebay purchase because i have never had a REAL practice book) :D,and all the student books and some of the hymnals i have been finding ,these are MY practice books, this pile is growing btw which is fine. Lately i have been working on the major scales ,key signatures and ,trying to play, and memorize notes that i didn't play the first time around ,so the little notes to myself help me .

    The book that i play from for Church etc. is not mine it belongs to the group,this one i'm not supposed to write in ,even though i have a few times ,In pencil:oops:

    If i had any old Sheet music? ,music scores from plays ,or such those would remain as i found them. If i needed to make notes i would just copy them and then i could mark that up.

    So i didn't mean just hack away on whatever you like ,Victor Borge comes to mind ROFL ,but i don't have a problem making notations so that when your playing in front of people you coast through the piece without getting messed up.

    Maybe that's as clear as mud ? :shock:

  7. kehaulani

    kehaulani Fortissimo User

    May 14, 2011
    Hawaian homey
    I guess it all depends on the books, no?

    For me, etude books, scores, etc. are tools; workbooks; roadmaps. IMO it's crazy to work your butt off trying to phrase things, get articulations right, etc. and not write down things to help you remember them the next time you come back to them. Additionally, unless you have great memory, notating on your music helps you with your consistency in your musical phrasing and interpretation, not to mention the very least, in making sure that you breathe in places that ensure that you don't run out of gas in really bad places.

    Maybe an extreme example for some would be the Bible. I was initially raised old school. You put that book in a special place, you don't mark in it, you don't put anything on top of it, etc. Now that same woman, my mother, you should see some of her bibles inside, now, LOL. They are filled with so many hand written notes, sometimes you can hardly see the original print. And she has a ton of Bibles of many different translations and sources. I don't think Peter's going to turn her away when the time comes. She's a scholar and in this regard, those books are sources of spiritual, as well as historical and maybe even archaeological reference.

    I've got two books authored by missionaries/merchants in Hawaii in the 1800s, original editions. There are NO markings in them, nor will there be any. Mom has a couple of special Bibles that have a safe place to rest in the same category.

    The Arban's been called "The Trumpeter's Bible". Mark in it. Don't. I guess it's all in context.
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2013
  8. Sethoflagos

    Sethoflagos Utimate User

    Aug 7, 2013
    Lagos, Nigeria
    A few years ago, I happened across my old Arban that I must have got somewhere around 1967.

    I'd just started practising again after a 10 year lay-off, and thought it would be a good idea to work through some of the lip-slur and articulation exercises to get back in shape. At the bottom of each exercise, in a child's hand, was a running record (in pencil) of the best times achieved for each.

    These days, when I think I'm getting to sound okay, testing myself against the times I could achieve when I was 12 or 13 brings me back to earth with a real bump!

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