Nakariakov and Shilkloper - comparing horns

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  1. ComeBackKid

    ComeBackKid Fortissimo User

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    Here is an interesting clip - not only for the music but also to consider the horns that they are playing. Does anyone recognize the horn Shilkloper is playing? A rotary post horn? A mellophone? A circular flugelhorn? (The sound is very similar between the two.)

    YouTube - Sergei Nakariakov and Arkady Shilkloper
     
  2. Buck with a Bach

    Buck with a Bach Fortissimo User

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    Definately different, CBK. You're right though, it does have a flugle flavor to it:dontknow:
     
  3. RichJ

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    Corno da caccia?
     
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    Actually, it is more conical in spite of the trumpet type mouthpiece. It was created to help trumpet players steal baroque horn gigs. The problem is, most trumpet players still sound like trumpet players even with a flugel/corno da caccia and that makes them unsuitable for those horn parts.

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  7. trumpetnick

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    Robin,

    As much as I hate to have an argument with you, the name of "corno di caccia" is rather vague - as you know it stands for hunting horn. Well, nobody takes a valved horn on a hunt, right? I believe that adding "valved" to you description will be useful. As for whether is a posthorn or hunting horn - I've got no clue about the difference.
     
  8. Phil986

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    Sergei's horn kinda looks like one that Mnozil sometimes uses. It's pretty exotic to me, I have never seen one of these myself.
     
  9. coolerdave

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    It looks like an absolute monster to move around on ...yikes
     
  10. rowuk

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    Nick, we are not in disagreement. The name is not mine, rather is used by several manufacturers of this beast. It is not a posthorn or hunting horn. The predecessors were called Kuhlohorns and were designed for german "Posaunenchor" use in the late 1800s. They are actually small bore rotary flugelhorns built in a rounded shape.

    Ludwig G├╝ttler actually broke the ice and started to steal baroque horn gigs from his colleagues with the "Corno da Caccia" versions in the early 80's.

    Johannes Kuhlo ? Wikipedia
    Kuhlohorn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     

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