New Member - P.E.T.E by Warburton

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by rmccaffr, Mar 27, 2014.

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  1. trickg

    trickg Utimate User

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    Again, I agree to a point - it is important for what you hear, but it's equally important to be able to connect to the feel of what's going on in the mouthpiece, i.e., feeling the focus of the chops, getting in tune with how the tongue and teeth interact to control the intensity of the attack, feeling how the tongue and fingers coordinate so that articulations and fingering lock into place, etc. It's important to hear it, but really getting in touch with how it feels is equally important IMO.
     
  2. Kevin Whiting

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    Wow, so funny to read this post now. I picked up the PETE, and used lightly (30 seconds pencil style, 30 seconds pull style). I recently added another 30 second pull set. A day later, I am getting bad tone and a fuzzy buzz. It could be something else other than the PETE, but I doubt it.

    After a days rest and not using PETE, getting better.

    Be very careful with the PETE. Not hard to over do it.
     
  3. gmonady

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    You, like me, may be playing less with a buzz more with a pwhoo vibratory technique. I just love pwhoo. I live in the land of pwhoo!!!
     
  4. Ed Lee

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    And 9 chances out of 10, you utilized P.E.T.E. improperly, as otherwise used properly no damage would occur. Your "timing" gives you away, as properly used timing is not a factor.

    This is a resistance exercise! All you do is clamp down on P.E.T.E. with only your lips as hard as you can and release. That is one complete "pencil" exercise no timing to it and no more detrimental than putting your lips against a mouthpiece.

    The second exercise uses the opposite end as is placed between the lips and teeth and then pulled while your lips resist. It is NOT a forceful pull through your lips as may damage them! That's the complete "button" exercise. There is no timing to either, although the exercises could be repeated.

    I personally don't recommend more than 6 of each in any session. I carry mine in a re-cycled prescription pill vial and keep it clean.
     
  5. tpsiebs

    tpsiebs Piano User

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    Even Jon Faddis only recommends "occasional" use of the P.E.T.E. There is no control without strength but, strength is NOT control. I have a LONG commute as well, and spend much of it buzzing with the James Thompson "Buzzing Book" CD. He recommends mouthpiece buzzing and then playing the exercise with the horn - I free buzz and then mouthpiece buzz. Great work out.
     
  6. Ed Lee

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    Ain't nothing wrong with free or mouthpiece buzzing, or using P.E.T.E. but I don't want to know you were doing it while driving and involved in an accident. Too, your insurance agent doesn't either ... nor would a Judge.
     
  7. tobylou8

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    I need some psuedo scientific explanation! ;-) I was taught to make a poo (your pwhoo) sound when buzzing. Think they are the same thing, unless you're in Colorado and you say, "Pwhoo,that's a good buzz " :cool:
     
  8. gmonady

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    There really is no buzz with Pwhoo. Let's arrange a meeting in Colorado, and we can go to a local pwhoo bar for me to demonstrate. Remember we only blow and NEVER inhale!
     
  9. rowuk

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    If you only blow without inhaling, then you surely suck!
     
  10. gmonady

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    I absolutely agree, and placing into context my comment as to "and NEVER inhale" which was in reference to a quote from one of our past Presidents when asked about smoking Marijuana stated, "I smoked it, but I never inhaled.
     

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