Newbie Low notes

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  1. Lou765

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    I am wondering how low a trumpet plays and sounds decent. I am a newbie and I can play below middle C to a low G/F (Concert) using 1X3 and sometimes get an E but anything else sounds like motor boat noises. I would like to be able to get a D but cant manage one so I am wondering if its a waste of time or if there is hope with a special fingering or gadget I buy from Ron Popeel (inventer of the pocket fisherman)???
     
  2. rowuk

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    I can certainly see him lowering the horn to get the low notes, but would there be any other changes he's likely to be making to his embouchure?
     
  4. AKtrumpet

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    Turning out your lower lip, while not beneficial to your playing, generally will make pedal tones easier to produce. However you should use your normal embouchure to produce the pedal tones if you want the benefits.

    The benefit to the use of these notes, in Claude Gordon's words will, if properly used:

    - Correct your emboucher.
    - Give you great command of your instrument.
    - Give you more power and fluency.
    - Aid your attack and sureness.
    - Develop better vibration.
    - Bigger sound in ALL registers.
    - Develop endurance.
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    They also, according to Jon Spaulding, who wrote 'Double High C in 37 Weeks', stimulate blood flow throughout the lips.
     
  5. Lou765

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    Thanks for the replies and great info.
    The video is the inspriation I needed !!
    Anyone have a finger chart for these lower notes as mine only goes to the F#/E Concert below middle c so that is part of my problem???
    Ok Is this where I am supposed to use a valve slide?? I know nothing about them yet??
     
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  6. AKtrumpet

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    The pedal tones (notes below F#) are the same fingering as the notes one octave above (an octave is eight notes).

    Trumpet and Brass Playing Sound Files Featuring Claude Gordon and Jeff Purtle | purtle.com

    Listen to the Wind Power lecture for a demonstration of a range study by Carl Leach and on the first lecture Mike Paulson demonstrates a range study too with pedal tones.
     
  7. The Kraken

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    Say Rowuk, what was that tune he was playing right before he went into that fast fancy finger work, I beleive it starts on or about 0.22 or 0:23

    Thanks
     
  8. rowuk

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    Hey, this should be apparent. Andrea is Italian. It is the theme from "The Godfather". You know, violin cases and concrete slabs chained to your ankles........
     
  9. The Kraken

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    Ahhhh.... Yes!! Dammmm that sounded so familiar!! Been along time since I heard it.

    Thank You :play:
     

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