NY Times Article - Period trumpet in handel's Messiah

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  1. Mellophone Man

    Mellophone Man Pianissimo User

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    Below please fin a link to an article from the NY Times. It includes a video of a performance of Handel's Messiah featuring a trumpet solo performed on a period straight trumpet. Enjoy!

    http://nyti.ms/1IXwxAj
     
  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    That is not a period instrument. It is an invention of the early 1960s. Period instruments had no vents. It is possible to play in tune without the vents. Google Jean Fran├žois Madeuf for some excellent insight in the real period playing.
     
  3. ChopsGone

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  4. rowuk

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    I agree with everything that Bob wrote. I think that there are a couple of things that could be added: a modern professional trumpeter that spends most of their time with valved instruments has great difficulty maintaining the chops necessary for a natural trumpet. I remember Don Smithers announcing that he was selling his Couesnon piccolo trumpet to devote his whole energy to the rebirth.

    The second point is that vented trumpets, like natural trumpets have a sound that does not collide with the choral soprano voice. This and the ability to get edge at a far lower volume level makes the vented trumpet attractive to the modern choir/orchestra director. They do not need to retune their church organs, get fiddle players with experience in mean intonation or other specialists that raise the cost of making music.

    The projects where I use a natural trumpet generally start with extensive rehearsals to get a common understanding of intonation and tuning. That is a paid rehearsal that does not have just a quick run through of the work at large.
     
  5. Jolter

    Jolter Piano User

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    It does say in the NYT piece that the vents are a modern addition.
     
  6. rowuk

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    Yes they did, but they also said "copy", "period" and "baroque" something that these instruments have nothing to do with. Still, it is millions of times more easy for me to listen to than a picc playing the same piece. It would be correct to say that this is a vented trumpet designed to give the most bang for the buck and still be easy enough for modern players to switch to.
     
  7. Sethoflagos

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    The Flatt trumpets seem often to get overlooked in these discussions.

    I was quite taken by this clip when I found it last year.



    The Canzona from 8:20 on gives the best view of operation.
     

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