Ok I need some help setting up a local chariety

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by lovevixen555, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. lovevixen555

    lovevixen555 Banned

    Nov 5, 2008
    Ok first I am unemployed right now so my time is free and I have a lot of skill's. I will list them briefly. I aprenticed in Germany in the late 1980's to be an Automotice Technician so I am skilled with my hands I can stretch,shape,shrink metal, I can lead and silver solder. I have a 4 year degree in Business Managment and a minor in Marketing. I also work on my own firearm's and electronics doing a fair amount of work myself.

    Now what I want to do. I want to get instruments either donated to me from locals that would otherwise donate to Ebay via GoodWill and Salvation Army. I want to repair these instruments to playable condition for students that can not afford an instrument but want to be in band!

    I have already started looking on ebay for basket case trumpet's that need a bell or have a cracked lead pipe of low compression on the valves etc....... I can not afford to start with great instruments and I can always stripp the finish and hand polish the brass if I need too. So I have been looking for a source of OEM defective trumpet part's so lead pipes, bells, tunning slides that are too dinged or dented from the OEM to let leave the factory so they are removed. Since this is comeing out of my pocket I am wanting to keep it as cheap as possable. I am currently liveing off $800 a month so times are tough! If not for ebay my oldest boy would not be in band right now.

    So I can learn any skill I need to work brass that is not a problem especialy if I can find a decent book on it! I need contacts for part's if anyone has them!!! I am sure that buy donating them to me they can write them off. Infact instead of just trashing them and writeing them off they can know they are doing a good deed.

    I got started at this just recently. A girl that I would love to make part of my family is really neglected. She has no Dad and her Mom does not have anything to do with her if not for her older sister she would be running wild. She is smart but act's out too much. She is a natural born performer. She wanted to be in band and she just got her Trombone some 6 weeks into band. I think a local church is picking up the tab. I was bidding on trombones up until today on ebay since I wanted her to have one. Any ways I thought to myself how important it was for me to be in band and all the great memories and how much trouble it probably kept me out of. I want to do something to help. Since all I have is my time and my skill with my hands I am trying to save the world one trumpet,baritone or tuba at a time!!!LOL

    I live in Rural America in the country and their are none of these "save the music" programs like you see in New York, Chicago and LA. I have to do all the work myself to keep the cost done since I do not plan on chargeing for any of these instrument's. I am tired of seeing so much stuff that should be going to the needy on Ebay! I have a friend that got a Bach Strad that was bare copper and had a few dings. He got it at a Salvation Army. He tried to give it to me and I said to him do you realise how much this is worth? I should have kept my mouth shut. He ended up polishing the bare raw brass with automotive cleaning paste wax until it was preety shinny and it sold for $2000 on ebay. It was one of the Mont Vernon Strad's. I know should have kept my mouth shut!!!LOL At the time my son was playing a Gemeunhardt Silver flute so I was not in the market for a trumpet. That trumpet should have gone to a needy kid put instead it was sold on Ebay to make a profit to someone that probably have more trumpet's in their home then they can use at any one time!

    I am not some communist socialist but it really bothered me and touched my heart to see that little girl show up day after day to band class with no trombone for 6 weeks!!! I found out today after church she had finaly gotten one. SO if anyone can help me out with contact's or other's that do this type of thing I would really apreciate it. I just decided last night to see if I could make a go out this. I was up to 5 AM with insomnia just thinking about giveing this a try. I figure worst case I fall flat on my face. Best case I do the heavy lifting then people will join in and we will have a program that can serve not only my local area but the entire state!Obviously if anyone on here had a kid in their area that needed something and their family was dirt poor I am sure once we are up and running we could send stuff to other states as well. I know that their are addicits and basements full of instruments that are dieing to be returned to the hands of a musician or a musician in training since no instrument want's to spend it life rotting on a shelf.

    Thanks for listening to me rant!
  2. Ed Kennedy

    Ed Kennedy Forte User

    Nov 18, 2006
    Check out Ferree's Tools (Ferree's Tools -The most copied tools in the world - Because they work! just click on the previous and the web site will pop up) They sell copies of the Erick Brand Repair Manual plus they have a huge variety of specialty tools. Also look up NAPBIRT organization for repair techs, their journal is a good source of info for techniques, materials and supplies. Good luck.
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2008
  3. veery715

    veery715 Utimate User

    Mar 6, 2007
    Ithaca NY
    What a great idea! Your heart's in the right place, lv555. In Kansas there's BAC HORN DOCTOR - Instrument Repair, who at last contact would apprentice folks for a charge for a week or two. Now I know you have a tight money situation, but maybe if you contacted him you could work out a deal so you could refine your skills.

    For horns, try coming up with a good form letter explaining your mission and send it to as many school districts as you can. They always have "beaters' to get rid of. If you could align yourself with a local non-profit (Salvation Army?) they could act as an umbrella agency to allow schools to deduct the value of their gifts.

    Cornell University Music department (CU Winds - Costa Rica Project — CU Winds) at the beginning of this year solicited instruments for kids in Costa Rica to be used in a program the university is running to build musical literacy there. I gave them two horns. If you contact them there may be some valuable information for your project.

    Good luck!
  4. Bob Grier

    Bob Grier Forte User

    May 4, 2007
    Greensboro, NC
    There should be more people like you. the best of luck to you.
  5. gbdeamer

    gbdeamer Forte User

    Oct 16, 2008
    I think you have a great idea. I would recommend that you start small. Get in touch with local band directors to see if they have any leftovers from former players. Churches are always a good place to spread the word about something like this. If people hear about your idea during a sermon they might hand you a dusty horn out of their closet.

    Again, start small. It takes people a long time to become proficient at horn repair. You have an andvantage with your existing skill-set, but you have to allow yourself time to learn the trade...
  6. Brekelefuw

    Brekelefuw Fortissimo User

    Mar 21, 2006
    Go down to a shop and ask if you can watch a bit. I am a repair technician, and while I own some books, nothing will benefit you more than watching a real tech work and explaining what is going on.
  7. lmf

    lmf Forte User

    May 16, 2007
    Indiana USA
    It may be to early, but in the USA, you usually want to be a 501 (c)(3) entity to receive tax-deductible gifts (horns, parts) from donors. You will probably need to speak with an attorney eventually. Some people or firms won't donate to a charity of any kind that does not have the 501 (3)(c) status as they want their donation to meet tax-deductible rules of the US government.

    501(c - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

    Exemption Requirements

    Application for Recognition of Exemption

    If you chose only to purchase old horns, parts, etc., and refurbish and instruments to give to an established charity or school, you could probably keep a record for each instruments value (what you purchased it for and repair parts) to set a value when you donate it to the charity. You could then save the receipt from the charity for your own tax-deductible purposes when you file taxes and keep it on file should the IRS audit you.
    Giving an instrument directly to a student without going through a charity or educational entity may not be considered "tax deductible" by the IRS, so you should look into it before assuming it counts.

    Best wishes,


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