Old Hymns for Practice

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  1. Sethoflagos

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    There's probably loads of these out on the interweb, but I'm thoroughly enjoying going through an 1877 Hymns Ancient & Modern freely downloadable from https://archive.org/details/hymnsancient77chur.

    They're great for practising sight-reading, phrasing, tone and intonation. And as I've said elsewhere, once I've played through a tune a few times, I particularly like playing it by ear, from memory, starting on a random note without thinking about what key that puts it into. This 'playing the interval' rather than the note helps develop 'intuitive' pitching and fingering, transposition skills and a feel for the underlying harmonies.

    Many tunes are non-modulating, and these can be viewed as Step 1, basic major and minor scale harmonies.

    Step 2 are (usually more interesting) tunes including the standard modulations into the 'uplifting' dominant, 'reflective' subdominant or 'subdued' relative minor. Lots of these, but hymns #2, #14, #222 (tonic-dominant); #43(2),#119 (tonic-subdominant); and #5, #47 (major-relative minor) are a sample to learn the distinctive feel of these harmonies and the adjustments that come with them.

    Step 3 modulations are the wyrd and unusual! Try the following. Most of them can be quite tricky if you pick the 'wrong' starting note! Not even 100% sure of the 'true' home key of some of them (#98(1) in particular):

    #25 - tonic-supertonic
    #17(1) - tonic-major mediant
    #29, #79 - tonic-minor mediant (relative major)
    #142 - tonic-major submediant
    #98(1) - tonic(dorian)-subtonic
    #76 - subtonic(dorian)-tonic-minor mediant(ionian-aeolian)-tonic
     
  2. barliman2001

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    I use the same method... but with our old Catholic songbook. Lots of nice hymn tunes.

    An added advantage: Hymn books usually come with four-part settings of most songs...
     
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    Seth, thank-you so much for this. I love playing hymns. I've an old Methodist Hymnal that I use. This site looks very cool. Thanks again :)
     
  5. Sethoflagos

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    There's a lot to be gained through playing all 4 parts, and finding which line is setting the harmonic structure for the others, such as "Eternal father, strong to save" (#222) which is driven by rising chromatic figures first in bass then treble.
     
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  7. Sethoflagos

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    Well it's nearly 4am here in Lagos, Gary, and I'm sat here enjoying a cigarette (no apologies!) and a bottle of cold Star beer, and I must say that time and place those two tracks went down really well. Track 2 reminded me of



    which for me comes very close to being complimentary. You're okay, mate!

    Despite what everyone else says.

    Love to hear you try that stuff on a Wild Thing with a really BIG Monette piece ;-)

    Good having you around!
     
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    I am honored with the reference. You know Zappa and I are both Cincinnati boys. Must be something in that Ohio River water.
     
  9. Vulgano Brother

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    For some people, "old" hymns were written in the early 20th Century. For me, they start around 1600.
     
  10. Sethoflagos

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    As late as 1600? Somehow I see you flirting with hypophrygian flautists of way, way back. Maybe I misjudge you ;-)
     

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