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  1. BILL VAN

    BILL VAN Pianissimo User

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  2. TrumpetMD

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    I'm looking to purchase a trumpet, and have played a handful of Schilke's in the past month (some B1's, B5's, and S32's). I didn't notice any significant tuning differences between them and my Bach 43.

    Mike
     
  3. wiseone2

    wiseone2 Artitst in Residence Staff Member

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    Yes, it is normal to put out the main tuning slide.
    Wilmer
     
  4. Peter McNeill

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    It can be the mouthpiece, your embouchure etc.
    I find with a shallow mpc I need to pull the pipe out on all trumpets, even if I have a trumpet in tune with a Bach 7C in it. If I swap with another player, then he usually pushes mine in a little.

    So it is good, in a way that it allows you to go in as well if tuning is a little on the sharp side in the band. So probably OK for the Schilke.
     
  5. BILL VAN

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    Thanks everyone for the replys.
     
  6. Bachstul

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    To have to pull it out one whole inch sounds like a lot, but I haven't got a Schilke, yet.
    The actual temperature of the horn makes a difference if you tune cold...retune after the trumpet is warm. If you just got this horn, you might find habits to slot center of pitch and whatever from your old horn habits; so project to a wall and listen. When you play with your section with this Schilke, play under, and listen; you will develop intonation skills with your new trumpet this way.
     
  7. Solar Bell

    Solar Bell Moderator Staff Member

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    "I puff out my cheeks when I play, is this bad?"
    Dizzy Gillespie

    "When I play my mouthpiece is off to one side, is this bad?"
    Maynard Ferguson

    "I don't put my finger tips on the valve buttons, I hang them way over, is this bad?"
    Al Hirt

    "When I play my horn points toward the floor, is this bad?"
    Sergei Nakariakov

    "I use the "pinky ring" when I am playing my horn, is this bad?"
    Harry James

    "I have to pull the tuning slide out a whole inch to play in tune on my Schilke, is this bad?"
    Bill Van

    "When I play I get a red mark on my lips from the pressure, is this bad?"
    Chuck Willard


    Get the picture?

    What difference does ANY of the above mean?

    If the tuning slide was not meant to go out an inch, they would make them less than an inch long with a positive stop on them.

    What Schwab said!

    Just play your horn and enjoy it.
     
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  8. rowuk

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    Hey Chuck,

    I guess all of these guys didn't have Trumpetmaster to help them before they started messing up. Bill is pretty lucky in that respect!

    Just for the record: Schilke trumpet are made to be played internationally and there are some orchestras that tune as high as A=446. That is why in America tuning at 440 means you need to pull the slide out.

    Some of the first Xenos in Germany did not have this leeway and needed to be cut down to play in tune.
     
  9. BILL VAN

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    figured an expen out maybe even 2 inches didn't seem right
     
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  10. lmf

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    ??????????????????

    I believe folks were offering constructve advice which made me question your reasons for criticism?

    Hope you take the "well-meaning" advice from folks here.

    Best wishes,

    Lloyd
     
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