Pencil Technique

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  1. trumpetaddict

    trumpetaddict New Friend

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    I do the pencil techinique(holding a pencil between your lips) on a daily basis and it takes about three minutes before i feel anything. Am I doing something wrong?
     
  2. gzent

    gzent Fortissimo User

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    Only expecting it to help.
     
  3. trumpetaddict

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    Whats wrong with it? Some say it works some say it doesnt.
     
  4. bumblebee

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    I think that's the point -- and you've just been replied to by somebody who says it doesn't, true?

    I thought it helped me a little when I tried it over a few weeks last year but my teacher (a pro player) is dubious of its benefits.

    --bumblebee
     
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  5. gzent

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    Have you ever heard of an professional educator say that it works?
    Anyone from a brand name school?
    Any serious pro lead player?
    No?
    Me either.
     
  6. bumblebee

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    Clint "Pops" McLaughlin? George Rawlin?

    --bumblebee
     
  7. schleiman

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    What is it supposed to achieve? Usually techniques have a particular purpose. I'm not being rude, I genuinely want to know. Thanks!
     
  8. trumpetaddict

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    Its supposed to assist with building range. And ive heard my director mention it once.
     
  9. bumblebee

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    I treat(ed) it more as a general chops workout -- which in turn I think gave me some improvement in endurance. I also did (do) Tai Chi which I can relate to the pencil exercise in that it combines gentleness and strength. I wouldn't say either activity directly assist whatever application technique I am trying to improve (trumpet playing, or swimming or whatever) but improving muscle tone and control makes other physically demanding goals easier to achieve.

    Responding to the OP's original question - "what am I doing wrong?" -- I would suggest you are either very strong, or you are using too light/short a pencil. Are you leaving any marks in the pencil?

    --bumblebee
     
  10. gzent

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    I wasted my time on it a couple years back. Did nothing but make my jaw ache.

    The only "quick" or "short cut" exercise I've ever tried that helped (beyond traditional practice techniques) is the "peal away" / false scale exercises discussed by Nick Drozdoff
    in this video: YouTube - Embouchure Design Revisited

    And this exercise absolutely works - ask anyone who does it.
     
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