Piccolo advice please: Scherzer & Selmer

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  1. Sterling

    Sterling Mezzo Forte User

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    I didn't know that there were two configurations of my scherzer when I bought it. I would have preferred the offset fourth valve paddle as that is how I play my schilke.
     
  2. X3Lb

    X3Lb Pianissimo User

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    Hi Sterling

    Do you have the LH 3rd tuning slide paddle please and if so do you find you need to use it.

    Thanks
     
  3. Bagnewauckland

    Bagnewauckland Pianissimo User

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    I have a Selmer, and one of my teachers has a Scherzer (and I bought the Selmer from him). I've found the Scherzer has better intonation overall, and has a different tone - rounder, slightly mellower, I guess. The Selmer plays in tune much better on the A side than on the Bb side, but the Bb side's workable with a bit of lipping and some alternate fingerings (1+3 for Gs and Ds, 2+4 for C#, etc.). The Scherzer I've played has the Fourth valve on the RHS, and the tuning paddle on the LHS, which works quite well, once you've figured out a comfortable way to hold it and access the paddle.
     
  4. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    If you want to play like Maurice André, you have to be him. The horn did not create his sound - he did. He had a very mellow way of playing.

    The Scherzer is darker and fuller sounding. You should get the paddle. Sterling doesn't help.
     
  5. Sterling

    Sterling Mezzo Forte User

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    I don't help? I thought my replies were pretty truthful.
     
  6. Kayin

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    He meant the sterling bells.
     
  7. Sterling

    Sterling Mezzo Forte User

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    D'oh! The sterling bell is nice. I agree, it might not be necessary. I wasn't able to try two horns side by side. I bought the sterling bell because of my experiences with a Bach 43 sterling bell and a King Silvertone. I like the way the overtones ring.
     
  8. X3Lb

    X3Lb Pianissimo User

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    Thanks for your views tpetplyr

    I am getting the feeling that the Selmer may be a less viable option.

    In the area where I live its difficult to get hold of a range of Piccolo's to compare.

    Have you by any chance played the 2 types of bell on the Scherzer to compare the characteristics of one with the other.?
     
  9. X3Lb

    X3Lb Pianissimo User

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    Thanks rowuk,

    Yes I wish !!

    Do you find the mouthpiece choices for the P54 and the Scherzer need to be much different. ?

    At the moment I'm using Schilke 14A4X on the Yam 9830.

    Is there any other feedback you can give me on the Scherzer please.?
     
  10. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    I do not really recommend mouthpieces. I consider that type of advice useless. Only trying it gives a meaningful answer. I never needed different mouthpieces between rotary and piston valved piccs.
     

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