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Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by RobertSlotte, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. RobertSlotte

    RobertSlotte Pianissimo User

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    When playing for a long time for example rehearsing with the band and the playing is tough I come to a point where the pitch of my tone rises.
    What I mean is when tuning in the beggining of the rehersal and then if we try to tune later when Im tired the pich is much higher when my chops are gone..forcing me to pull out the tuning slide a bit. This happens to some of my friends also. How about you? Is this a common thing?

    And why does it happen? If I had to guess my self Id guess it is due to tension....comments?
     
  2. irishcornetboy

    irishcornetboy Pianissimo User

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    Most instruments get sharper as they get warmer. That may be it but Im sure there are other answers.
     
  3. bigpapajosh

    bigpapajosh Pianissimo User

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    as you get tired, you may be trying to squeeze the notes out, using less air.
    but yes a cold horn will play flat as well.
     
  4. RobertSlotte

    RobertSlotte Pianissimo User

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    :)
     
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  5. RobertSlotte

    RobertSlotte Pianissimo User

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    no im not talking about that :-) I mean after a few houers when the chops are really tired. NOT after 3 minutes when the horn is warm.
     
  6. nordlandstrompet

    nordlandstrompet Forte User

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    Maybe a combination of "stiff" lips and to much mp pressure?

    Or, if you play in a band with strings and no keyboard,
    it could happen that the stringed instruments looses pitch when they are getting warmer,
    and don't "re tunes" themselves.

    BTW: New 8310Z?
     
  7. RobertSlotte

    RobertSlotte Pianissimo User

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    But I have also noticed the same at home with the tuner....so I can not blame the stringed instruments....although I really would like to ;-)

    yes, new 8310Z...like it :)
     
  8. nordlandstrompet

    nordlandstrompet Forte User

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    I have noticed with my 8310 that it has to be kept warm
    during rests, or else it looses pitch very fast. (flattens)
    It needs to be at "working temperature" when tuning.
    If it is "half warm when tuning", it sharpens very fast too.

    Otherwise: Hope this video helps :-P

    YouTube - Wynton Marsalis telling the truth
     
  9. RobertSlotte

    RobertSlotte Pianissimo User

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    ROFL Thanks nordlands..how silly of me thinking it was me...when it really was the REST of the band suddenly drop pich ;-)

    Wynton is Cool :cool: I have seen that clip before. (several times :-) )


    But I can not blame the 8310Z either becouse I just got it and it is the same with my Eb trumpet, piccolo, Bach and so on.......hm....maby me and my friends here are the only ones??? Maby it is something in the water here....aaah...the Water in Finland is bad :-o
     
  10. trumpetnick

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    Ditto. Try to continue to play relaxed. Remember to keep breathing deep. The stress of knowing that you are tired may make you take small breaths.
     

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