placement of the mouthpiece in the leadpipe

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  1. fraserhutch

    fraserhutch Mezzo Piano User

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    I know a number of pros who swear by this. Who am i to say they're not on to something? If it helps them play better even if it is only because they believe in it and it makes them more comfortable, at the end of the day what difference does that make?
     
  2. Conntribution

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    Well, I know what you're saying. Let me add that I gig with a guy (classically trained, but a great, natural jazz feel) who swears to G-d if he steps on a concrete walkway crack line he will suck that night.
     
  3. Ed Lee

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    I'm going to stick my foot in my mouth for sure to get into this discussion, but my thinking is: (1) that the older a mouthpiece is the more the potential of it being erratic is whereas the criteria of "precision existed only in the skill of the the actual person making them" and when two or more made them, the difference about equates with the skills we know between professional players, and (2) we are still coping with tool wear even with the latest CNC technologies, and (3) finally we cope with wear of the mouthpiece and receiver angulation respective of player usage similar to the varied wear on valves.
     
  4. chaplainentrekin

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    I was taught by my trumpet teacher in college to always line up the mouthpiece the same way. For me, that meant that number was straight up. The purpose was not for finding a sweetspot for the horn, but so that the lips always felt the mpc consistantly the same. Kind of like using an anchor point in archery. the less variables, the easier it is to find where the actual deficiency lies. I still do this. But there is no belief (in my head, anyway) that it makes me play better, or not doing it would make me play worse.
     
  5. Branson

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    We all seem to have our own opinion as to what works and what does't when moving parts around on our instrument.

    As the author of the original post... How To Place Your Mouthpiece In Your Horn | The Trumpet Blog...

    I agree that a more complete test would be nice and possibly more conclusive. Unfortunately or fortunately as it were, I have a very busy schedule and as stated in the original post, I would like to hear others opinions as to the validity of this issue.

    I have posted another controversial topic on my site which I found equally thought provoking and would like again to hear others view on this also.....

    Dime or No Dime? | The Trumpet Blog

    No one has all the answers but we should be skeptical when dealing with opinions.
     
  6. fraserhutch

    fraserhutch Mezzo Piano User

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    Yeah, that's TOTALLY the same thing.
     
  7. gmonady

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    Never did trust people that swear... you know... anger issues and all... BIAS PLUS!
     
  8. gmonady

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    Putting his 2 cents in x 5 I see. A dime for your thoughts. Interesting and I like the spectrograph results, but the bottom line is what the ear detects, as the audience has ears, not sectrographs, unless you are in a police station with lie detectors... Hmmm I wonder what they would pick up if attached to the horn?
     
  9. Vulgano Brother

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    A dime weighs 0.0800013 ounces.
     
  10. Ed Lee

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    All I'm saying is if you play the valve repetively fast enough and loud enough in which the dime is placed the recording should also pick up the jiggle of the dime. Too, there has been no stipulation in this test between pppp and ffff. Well, I'll be honest, I stacked as many as 4 stainless steel washers in a valve cap so as to not interupt the valve compression and I couldn't discern any difference either and I did this with both open playing and with my YSB.
     

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