Playing up an 8ve

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by BrotherBACH, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. iw63boomer

    iw63boomer New Friend

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    Hey! I’ve been playing those songs from the Arbans Book 8va since I was a child; somewhere I had heard that Bill Chase did that. I try to play them being very aware of tone, style, interpretation, etc. I love the intermediate song books! I play selections from them at marked tempos to work on tone, counting, breath control, style, etc. I also play them in multiple keys; up a whole step, and then different intervals: third, minor third, fifth, etc. I am not sure why, but this does wonders for my sight reading ability. I never would have guessed that doing this level of transposition would help my sight reading, and I am still not completely convinced that it has – BUT! – ever since I started doing that, my sight reading ability has increased a whole bunch!
     
  2. kingtrumpet

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    WOW -- you wouldn't believe how much sense this makes. My high school band teacher was Trombonist (a mighty proficient one at that) - but mostly into classical music. That teacher would "discourage" us students on playing any note above High C -- claiming that we didn't need anything higher than that to be a good trumpet player.((((and you hear a lot of that advice going on right here on TM)))) --- there were a couple of us "guys" who would try and practice and play higher notes --- to the teacher's dismay, and corrective advice - "Don't ruin your chops, your sound, and don't play up there" --------for me I aquiesced to that "thought" for many years. NOW - I am a comebacker -- trying to crack the Double High C barrier with accuracy, sound, and playability -- I can see the D and E above that are possible. So 25+ years later -- I see what determined practice can yield. AND I wish that years ago I was NOT so gullable to NOT try to get those high notes--- or practice such that I could reach that realm. SO - YEAH -- all those YUCK YUCKS who don't like HIGH notes above high C -- should go play a trombone, or a clarinet or something --- and get into one of those forums --- YEAH, and those yuck, yuck classical guys should learn to appreciate that "classical" is not the only type of music -- YEAH, that's it -- US HIGH note afficienados -- we are the KING's of the trumpet --- AND that causes angst among those WHO NEVER TRIED TO ACHIEVE THOSE NOTES THAT THEY WERE TOLD THEY SHOULD NEVER PLAY --- hey you yuck yucks -- the range above High C is available if YOU CHOOSE TO PURSUE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. iw63boomer

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    A trumpet player who can an octave and more above the high ‘C’ can be compared to the F-16 pilot alongside the driver of a single engine Cessna. Or something like that!
     
  4. tobylou8

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    I was told in high school (by a fine trombonist/director) that anything above high C was not musical (read classical). Jazz wasn't music to him so we didn't have a jazz band! :-(
     
  5. Bogieboy

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    Very good advice!!! An organist i play with regularly does that on most hymns... Each verse. Is a half step from the last... Another good one to learn is transposing from C music on the fly... Its a great skill to have for a church style player like myself, just grab a hymnal out o the bench and play... Thats if youre like menand cant afford a c trumpet...LOL
     
  6. kingtrumpet

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    I think all trombonists who are directors and band teachers must go to the same school --- they all learn the same thing --- and all give the same response --"dont' go above high C, don't ruin your chops, that's not music", etc. --------ROFL ROFL ROFL
     
  7. BrotherBACH

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    I dunno. I liked J.J. Johnson and Curtis Fuller because they played a trombone like a trumpet, at least to my ears. Great articulation and high register.

    BrotherBACH
     
  8. operagost

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    "I classify all uncorrected errors as "microbes" which, although invisible to the naked eye, are deadly - even more deadly than an animal as big as an elephant. One can run away or hide from or dodge an elephant, but not so with a microbe. These minute organisms multiply rapidly and in large number if not immediately driven out of the system. " - Herbert L. Clarke
     
  9. gsmonks

    gsmonks Piano User

    I think 8va is up, whereas 8ve is down . . .
     
  10. tobylou8

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    8vb is down. 8vb
     

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