please don't laugh .. how do you empty the "spit" without a 3rd valve water key

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  1. EricMGB1974

    EricMGB1974 Pianissimo User

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    If you're really worried about intonation changes with a water key the Saturn water key was specifically designed to prevent/minimize this.

    Wedgwood Brass - saturn

    I have one on a custom C cornet I had made and really like it. At the very least, intonation aside, I find it does a better job of emptying the water than the standard lever keys on my other horns.
     
  2. tobylou8

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    I have a Vega with your 3rd slide set-up. I would just get it fixed and use it as intended, unless your horn accumulates a lot of "condensation" there.
     
  3. trickg

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    You can probably get that unstuck yourself at home with some penetrating oil. Just be careful doing it.
     
  4. coolerdave

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    back in "the day" I would tryed it Patrick, but I have a pretty good music store within 20 minutes of where I live ...this is how it goes
    "Hey Hon, we NEED to go to the music store to get this slide fixed. :) :)
    and they only charge $5 ...
    and I get to play around on the different instruments in the store and check out their music books while I wait...
     
  5. mineo50

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    Dave,
    +1. Your Machievelian take on going to the music store with the wife's permission is genius! Plus you don't endanger the integrity of the trumpet.
     
  6. coolerdave

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    all for 5 bucks too !
     
  7. trickg

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    Understood! :D :lol:
     
  8. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    I think you don't have to worry about the effects of a spit key on a Bach. It does not belong to the family of tension optimized instruments and even if it did, you would have to be a tension optimized player to "feel" the "microscopic" difference. Rejoice in the fact that being "normal" has incredible advantages in not burdoning ourselves down with miscellany. The advantages of getting the spit out fast are very great.
     
  9. coolerdave

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    I know I can +1 to whatever Robin post and have pretty good odds of being on the winning end of any dispute... even if I don't understand what he said .. I am guessing a tension optimised instrument is a guitar or piano..
    and yes,... the speed factor is huge .. I just don't get why they didn't put a water key on the thing .. baffling
     
  10. mtbevins

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    Yup,

    That is how I empty mine too by pulling just the end of the 3rd valve slide. You could have them put a water key on it, but most of my accumulation is in the tuning slide. I usually have to dump the third just when I oil the valves.
     

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