Practice with Leadpipe

Discussion in 'Trumpet Discussion' started by anthony, May 11, 2015.

  1. anthony

    anthony Mezzo Piano User

    Mar 3, 2009
    Hi what benefits do you get by practice with tuning slide removed and playing on leadpipe?
  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

    Jun 18, 2006
    I have no benefits and don't do it. A short bit of buzzing with the mouthpiece and then long tones and lip slurs with the whole horn! None of my students do this either. Others mileage may vary BUT I personally see no advantage of leadpipe over standard longtones - other than the opportunity to see how much grunge is in the leadpipe.
  3. anthony

    anthony Mezzo Piano User

    Mar 3, 2009
    Thank you Rowuk, Anthony
  4. Mellophone Man

    Mellophone Man Pianissimo User

    Mar 31, 2010
    Scottsdale AZ
    For a different point of view on using the lead pipe as an aid to improving your playing, go to the website and look at the first five introductory lessons.
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  5. Peter McNeill

    Peter McNeill Utimate User

    Jan 30, 2009
    Melbourne Australia
    I would only use the Leadpipe for a new student, and use a tuner.

    Start the session by playing a Concert Eb, F on the Leadpipe. This just helps to get the student to learn to lip up and down, and get the ear centred. It is a good start to a practice session. Then put the slide back together, and play.

    Have I ever done it as a normal part of my practice - no. But it is useful for a beginner.

    BTW: try it as described and tell us if there is a benefit.
  6. PelicansRule

    PelicansRule Pianissimo User

    Feb 2, 2015
    Pittsburgh, PA
    you is out 'yo mind. I was at an afterparty last Saturday and a female trumpet player did this with the tuning slide in which I could not. Exhilarating.
  7. trumpetsplus

    trumpetsplus Fortissimo User

    Jun 11, 2006
    South Salem, NY
    Learning to play the trumpet is not a situation of doing "this for that" like taking a particular pill for a specific pain. There is not a Grand Method of trumpet playing. There are some techniques which a teacher may suggest to a particular player in the course of a lesson which may help the student deal with a particular issue they are having. This will be specific to that player and their relationship to the issue at hand, and not necessarily transferrable. You need to be aware of the context in which the suggestion was made.
  8. Sidekick

    Sidekick Mezzo Piano User

    Apr 14, 2011
    London UK
    I know a very good professional player who swears by playing a lead pipe as part of his everyday warm up.
    He is what you might call a high note specialist, mostly playing classical and baroque music. I don't know if the lead pipe playing and his preferred music genre are linked.
    "Horses for courses" as they say over here.
  9. tobylou8

    tobylou8 Utimate User

    Dec 22, 2008
    I've seen these lead pipe videos before and many players come to the wrong conclusion. One such poster here proudly announced, "We don't have to buzz anymore"!! SMH. I can "defeat" the exercise because I know how to manipulate my lips. The best way to learn to play the trumpet, is to, drum roll please, play the trumpet (ANA cue rimshot)! Benefit? I see little to none so I keep all the pieces in place and tight and properly lubricated.
  10. Vulgano Brother

    Vulgano Brother Moderator Staff Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    Parts Unknown
    I've used pipe buzzing and use it with students, with the slide in the leadpipe (but not connected to the valve section). The tones are wobbly, but when the resonant frequency is reached, suddenly the note feels stable. It's possible to get more than one note, and slurring from one resonant note to the next is possible.

    The benefit, is I see it, is that there is an "Aha moment" when the student gets the pipe to sing--the trick is to memorize the "feel" of a well-played pipe and then transfer that feel to the trumpet. It can result in a more resonant trumpet sound.

    Bill Adam advocated "buzzing the pipe" (without the tuning slide) in his daily routine to refresh the feeling of letting the air form the embouchure and do the work.

    Hope this helps!

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