Problem with Valve 1?

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  1. Hitman0042

    Hitman0042 Banned

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    Yer that's good. i will look into Billy Hydes one day.

    The trumpet i got now is ok. Just with the valve but that's fixed now. i like it cause its light as well which i can reach higher notes easier. For the price it is pretty good. My teacher likes it as well he said he has seen some that cost $600 but don't play as good. you know, it is the person that makes the instrument sound good. Yes?
     
  2. rowuk

    rowuk Moderator Staff Member

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    Hitman,
    a very good post and my feelings exactly.

    TM posters, can we get back on thread?

    The valve issue has been covered in adequate depth.
    We know that cheap trumpets can have mechanical problems, that beginners may not have a great hand position and that proper care and feeding of the instrument can limit problems.

    Maybe one piece of information not yet posted: new valves are not "shiny". The lapping process actually gives them a slightly "rough" finish on purpose. It actually reduces the surface area contactling the valve casing and provides mini "reservoirs" of oil. If the valves were perfectly smooth, the oil could get "pushed" out of the way and not properly isolate both surfaces. The lapped surface will wear after a while and give an indication as to how the player pushes the valve down.

    For any REAL trumpet player, the first instrument is merely a stepping stone to the next one!

    Whether the Bach is the optimal next horn depends on the results of the research that each player does. I'll bet that most purchases made are blind (no play before you pay, no real research) and that there is a lot of BS posted on the internet about the decision making process.
     
  3. trumpetnick

    trumpetnick Fortissimo User

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    Robin,

    I would not be so sure about that. While all Monel valves I have seen are far from "shiny", my piccolo trumpet from spada (which I am not sure weather it got spiri or bauerfeind stainless steel valves) were shine when I got it one year ago, and still are. Not that I care, as far as they move fast...
     
  4. Bach219

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    Thank you Imf, that is exactly what he should of done!lol
     
  5. Hitman0042

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    yer i dont know much about this. But i can say that my trumpet is fixed now and im learnign pretty fast
     
  6. oldlou

    oldlou Forte User

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    Good grief; I thought that Robin had put this thread to sleep. I now hope that it does die.


    OLDLOU>>
     
  7. nordlandstrompet

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    Hitman has informed us well that the valve is OK, :shock:,
    so may be a couple of well founded sentences about fast air, venturies,
    jet engines, carburators and garden hoses
    would slow down this thread? ROFL

    Just asking. It could be a good idea. May be.....or not
     
  8. trumpetnick

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    Fast air had the capacity to slow down TM threads? That's a discovery worth for a Nobel Prize! Now, does a slow thread/lousy subject produces fast air? Or maybe everlasting HDCs?
     
  9. nordlandstrompet

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    Maybe
     
  10. nordlandstrompet

    nordlandstrompet Forte User

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    not
     
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